ST Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) in Episode VII

or so you led us to belie.......

 

Luke being killed in Episode VII would be disappointing. I mean he will obvisouly get not much screentime and then we find him, being the most powerful force-user ever who can move mountains and bring down Star Destroyers just to be killed off? What a waisted potential. I would like to see more of those incredible powers later. And who will train the new Jedi if Luke is dead?
On the other hand it would make sense... Han will get a "Han shoots first" scene which would fit here and Mark Hamill shaved his beard to film more scenes which could be an indication that he will be a force ghost at the end.
I really hope that this rumour is not true. If Luke has to die then let him die in Episode IX as a conclusion to the saga.

 

I really don't see why people are so uptight about Luke dying. He's the one member of the OT3 who can die and not be killed off. Besides, if Luke dies it continues the tradition of the PT and OT with a Jedi Master being killed at the end of the first movie.

 

With one difference: Luke obviously did not train anybody. Not like Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan.
Another thing: We already got this two times and now a third? Really? How about something new...

 

As far as we know Luke hasn't trained anybody. Despite all the rumors and speculation floating around, it's all hypothetical until the movie comes out. We had lightsaber duels in both the PT and the OT. You aren't suggesting we do away with lightsabers altogether are you?

 

Hmmm, that´s a good one. Do you guys think Mark shaving means he will appear as a Force Ghost? I hadn´t think about it as a possibility, but I have to admit it would make sense.

 

I think it's more likely that Mark shaving means Luke will re-enter civilized society as a mentally stable individual at the end of the movie.
It's time for him to do as Yoda instructed, and pass on what he has learned.

 

What if han does indeed shoot Luke but Luke does not die? At the end of the movie we see someone in robes with a mask and a cyborg hand holding Vaders helmet in his hand... Maybe Luke is indeed the cyborg from the artwork. Everyone thinks he died but in fact he didn't... A double twist... We think Luke is evil, but he isn't when in fact he is...

 

It is not more likely that Hamill shaved because he prefers to be clean shaven in real life?

 

Rumor has it that Mark filmed scenes this week w/o the beard.

 

Yes, that's something impossible to explain. When you read the description 'noone wants to have something to do with him', so why Han searches then for him? Makes simply no sense at all.

 

I should clarify: according to sw7news (http://www.starwars7news.com/2014/1...ially-wrapped-final-day-of-filming-today.html), Mark shaved before production wrapped and has filmed scenes without the beard. If true, I think it's because he has returned from exile, not died.

 

Or hes dead and is a force ghost?

 

Obiwan kept his beard in death

 

I'm hoping it's a case of flashbacks if we see him without the beard. Show the battle in which he went wild with the Force and decided to go into exile. But I want the beard to be his default look for the rest of the trilogy.

 

I really like this idea.

 

This crazy powerful Luke and the grain of salt rumour of Han killing him got me thinking back to the Making of Return of the Jedi book. The original plan by Lucas and Kasdan was one of the "more powerful than you can possibly imagine" powers was Obi Wan could actually return in the flesh once the Emperor was gone...could Luke have the ability to jump in and out of the Netherworld?

 

That's indeed an interesting idea and was not done before.

 

I am soooooo sick and tired of seeing the master killed off in the first movie of every Star Wars trilogy, especially now with Luke. I'm starting to hope nothing rhymes anymore so I can finally see something new.

 

I always thought that Han would die in Episode VII simply because Harrison Ford wants closure for the character since ROTJ. I doubt that he wants to come back for Episode VIII...

Also I thought that Han inherited the mentor role in Episode VII so him being killed off would then be in line with the series again (the mentor being killed off in the first movie of each trilogy) - which I am still not a fan of.

 

I doubt it. But it would definitely be a different and very interesting twist to throw into a Star Wars film.

 

From what I remember ghosting was kind of on a timer, in that Ben could return to the material world but if he left it too long he'd become one with the force.

 

Okies - though being a rumour means very little.

There is also the possibility that a clean shaven Luke is how he appears at the start of the movie - if say, for example, the movie begins with "Kira" heading to train with him on some out of the way planet to avoid distraction, then the beard grows and represents a passage of time.

See above

 

I remember reading that Ford wanted Han to die in ROTJ, but Lucas wouldn't have it because then the film would end on a downer. Also, I'm sure Lucas wanted to resolve the Leia/Han/Luke issue & give that a happy ending - this is why Luke & Leia turned out to be brother & sister (though I believe Lucas knew this by ESB, based on Leia's being able to sense Luke's plight at the end of that film), so that Han & Leia could get together without any guilt feelings. In any case, I have mixed feelings about the possibility of Han dying in that film - I think it definitely would have made Jedi more realistic if at least one of the heroes had passed, if only because it makes more sense than in a huge battle (in space & on Endor) that there would have been more fatalities. However, I don't think we even saw any Rebel Commandos (the Endor Troopers) die, and only a couple of Ewoks died (that we saw) during the entire ground battle.

That all being said, if Han passes on in Episode VII, I don't think anyone will be too broken up about it at this point. These guys 30+ years older than they were in ROTJ (both in real time & SW universe time), so thought it would be a downer, it still wouldn't have the impact that it would have if Han had passed in Jedi.

 

Harrison Ford wanted to move on to do other things in 1983 ... but that was a long time ago when he was a young(ish) actor who also had the Indiana Jones movies to fall back on, where he was the defacto lead (not like the secondary hero). Being typecast as the "Star Wars guy" wouldn't be good for his career at that time.

Nowadays, producers aren't exactly lining up around the block to cast a 70 year old Harrison Ford. They could always do another Indiana Jones, but who knows when that'll even come together, and it's unlikely Spielberg wants to direct another.

I doubt Harrison is so gung-ho about killing off Han Solo these days. Episode VII is the most relevant movie he's been in the last 5-6 years, since Indy IV which was a dud, if it turns out to be good it'll be like the first "hit" movie he's done that's been well liked by the public in ages.