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  1. Rookhelm

    Rookhelm Jedi Master star 4

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    If you hit the casings, it would probably wreck the casings, looking like the pic you posted above kinda. The examples you gave are rather silly. The casings would be there to protect the users hands, not "hold" the shape of the cross guard.
     
  2. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Stephen Colbert owns the issue.

    In the other six films, we've never seen a lightsaber slide down in this way. So what is the probability--hilt or no hilt we'd even see this become an issue.

    It looks cool and different. I'm satisfied.
     
  3. Tatooine Twilight Twins

    Tatooine Twilight Twins Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yep. Yes he does.
     
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  4. Lurknomore

    Lurknomore Jedi Knight star 4

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    But what purpose do the top halves of the casings serve if they do nothing to shape or direct the beam itself? The wielder's hand only needs protection from below.
     
  5. ArchStanton1862

    ArchStanton1862 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I think the key thing here is that they want this lightsaber to look like a medieval broadsword. Broadswords conjure up images of medieval knights (his helmet will help with that too) and the idea of raw power and threat. Sais (and this looks nothing like a sai) don't bring those images to mind. As many people have said practicality is not a thing that matters with lightsabers as long as it doesn't make things immensely impractical. Sure, you can't twirl it around like a maniac, but who says he will? Just from the design you can tell that this is going to be a weapon of force and power compared to the more elegant classic lightsaber.
     
  6. Chewbacca's Stylist

    Chewbacca's Stylist Jedi Youngling

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    It looks cooler that way. Seriously, all the "fixes" except for the one posted above look like garbage. The one above is decent.
     
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  7. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't have a problem with the crossguard. I just don't like the way it's designed for that lightsaber. The emitters should be closer together, not t-shaped. But that's my opinion.
     
  8. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    Good on Colbert, but some of us were saying exactly this from the beginning of this thread. Maybe he's a JC member :)

     
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  9. Redimet

    Redimet Jedi Master star 4

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    This
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    Prevents this!
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  10. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Unfortunately, it never is. Never.
     
  11. RII

    RII Jedi Master

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    Most of what I will say has likely already been covered, but first - a visual aid:
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    Above is a "compensated" Glock 22. Ported barrel to increase stability.

    Obi Wan to Luke (Star Wars): "It's not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age."
    Obi Wan to himself (Episode 2, tosses Grievous' blaster aside with contempt): "So uncivilized."
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    I don't know how I feel about the "Claymore" saber - yet.

    From the picture above, its obvious what I immediately observed.

    Judgments of the PT aside, there is an obvious progression chronologically with how sabers are handled:
    1. Sabers of the PT were either lighter than the OT, less dangerous/powerful, had lower "kickback" upon contact, or all three - and therefore conducive to acrobatic/artistic martial art.
    2. Sabers of the OT were either heavier than the PT, more dangerous/powerful, had higher "kickback" upon contact, or all three - and therefore less conducive to acrobatic/artistic martial art.

    3. THIS "CLAYMORE" SABER is evidently overpowered and unstable and therefore more volatile.

    On sound alone, the thrummm of the PT sabers was very harmonic. In the OT, there was harmony with punctuated pulse (even in the ORIGINAL OT) - thrummm um um um bb umm bb. This claymore is bass and static and jet.

    I am not convinced in any way that the claymore saber is an artifact or discovered relic. On very limited evidence - I'm wagering on a MODERN/CONTEMPORARY supercharged saber.
    I'm led to believe that whomever constructed it is:
    A. a Jedi/Sith.
    B. Desires a supercharger on his/her toys, and has modded it for stability.

    Darth Vader to Luke (Episode 6), inspecting Luke's weapon: "Sooo, you've constructed a new light saber.. You're training is complete."

    As a throwback to Episode 5 - I felt like our hooded crazy sword guy was in a trial. It bled too much of Luke approaching the cave in ESB with modern ADD follow/twitch cinematography.

    In asides, I see that the so-called "cross-guards" could be used to strip hands from enemy in a saber clash/lock. I don't see practical defensive intent.
    Yes, I have read the tri-beam explanations and won't argue (they just seem to be low-weight justifications for obvious impracticality).

    If Star Wars is the story of the Skywalkers - Luke isn't enough. There must be a legacy. Whether that's nieces/nephews/children etc. I wouldn't be surprised if Luke gets ANOTHER "I am your father" moment.
    Vader Clone. I genuinely hope I'm wrong - and I'll be surprised by something completely diff. I have no faith in the sensationalist juggernaught.

    Still love Star Wars.
     
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  12. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Colbert has explained everything.
     
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  13. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Someone earlier responded to my post satirizing the super realists who long for practicality in a fantasy genre with an argument about storytelling. I would have thought it obvious that since I think genres create their own worlds and thus their own logics that I of course agree that the lightsaber is all about story. Story, however, isn't what this thread is about, sadly. This thread is about importing our current realist logic (realism changes through time, since what was considered real 100 years ago is much different than now) into a fantasy world simply because some fans privilege their version of reality more than story.

    While Lucas may have wanted his SW world to seem practical, he meant practical in that world, not practical in ours.

    Hence, lightsabers are not practical in our world, but practical in the SW.

    So when people start complaining about the practicality of this new saber, they're not arguing these sabers are not practical in SW. How would they know? They haven't seen the movie yet. So the only measure they can be using is our own world -- which also excludes most of what's in SW to begin with. Including the impractical lightsaber they magically believe in. The irony is more than a little thick.
     
  14. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    this viking dude knows his crossblades, and seems quite positive about it
     
  15. Panakas_Dawg

    Panakas_Dawg Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It is there so that the blades can extend out of any or all three openings.
    I got nothing.
     
  16. TheBBP

    TheBBP Force Ghost star 6

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    Not sure if been posted...

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  17. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    It can be used for strengthening the Jedi (or in his case Sith) mind trick.

    It's due to the strobing effect.
     
  18. Caffeine_Force

    Caffeine_Force Jedi Youngling

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    I wish Maul's hilt had never been cut in half, and we could just assume lightsaber hilts are resistant to lightsabers. After all, they emit the beam, so it really wouldn't be much of a logical stretch to think they could survive being touched by another saber. I actually had a problem with that even before this new saber.
     
  19. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    Can't believe the attention this has got.

    Is this some weird offshoot of JJ doing the film?

    You know how people talked about JJ putting some of the "Wars" in his Trek movies?

    This is some reverse thing whereby people are looking at this sword and trying to explain it like it's Trek sci-fi as opposed to Star Wars fantasy. It's like Count Dooku. The reason he can "leap" around is due to his using the Force to lift himself ie in some way lessen his own weight. It's not innate physical prowess though no doubt all powerful Force users by nature are in great condition.
     
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  20. loki41872

    loki41872 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I don't know if EU had anything to say about that, but i assumed the the saber hilts were resistant to saber blades and obi wan didn't cut maul's "one" saber in half, he cut the point where the "two" sabers were connected by a weaker material. Star Wars JB Weld.
     
  21. Chewbacca's Stylist

    Chewbacca's Stylist Jedi Youngling

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    Seems like a moot point. If someone can cut your hilt in a middle of a fight, he can probably kill you straight up, at least that was the case with Obi-Wan and Maul and Dooku and Anakin. It's like making a bullet proof gun.
     
  22. Rookhelm

    Rookhelm Jedi Master star 4

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    Maul's is not the only example of a cut saber. When Anakin is dual weilding in ep 2, one of his gets cut in half...I'm pretty sure 1 or more of Greivous' were cut in half too.
     
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  23. natureboy76

    natureboy76 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I do like how "old" and archaic the beam looks. I hope this is an artifact or maybe even a relic from Revan's tomb or whatnot.
     
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  24. loki41872

    loki41872 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You are correct. I pretty much forgot everything about episode 2.
     
  25. Mr. K

    Mr. K Moderator Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Fear is a practical purpose.
     
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