Full Series Official Star Wars Rebels Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

No. No he was not.

He was using telepathy with a side of Force-ghost training. It only worked, I assume, because Dagobah and the temple on Lothal are both strong Force nexuses.

 

I am pretty sure that statue isn't meant to be taken literally. I believe it is just meant to be a symbol or a metaphor.

 

Nah I'm pretty sure that's a centuries-old dead body.

 

Lol, well I am going to stick with it being a metaphor or something that is purely symbolic. Pretty sure it is something that won't get anymore development then what we saw right there so we can believe what we want to on it.

 

I think you need to listen to their dialogue again, darkchrono. Kanan specifically says they are, "...Masters who's Padewans never returned.". They're dead Jedi. That's the point- Kanan is putting his trust in Ezra to complete the trial, or he's pretty much screwed.

 

I know that is what he said and I am going to stick with the fact that it is just a symbol of a master whose apprentice never returned. Because that is a totally stupid storyline if it is an actual dead body. So I am going to stick with the idea that it is not really a dead body and it is just a symbol. You can take the dialogue literally if you want to but I'm not going to myself.

 

It let's us know the seriousness of the situation and the trail. I don't think that's stupid at all. I think it adds to the show, and let's us all know that parts of the Jedi Order were in some ways, a little out there but also that there was a lot of discipline and patience involved with training a Padawan. Something Kanan is going to have to come to terms with more in order to train Ezra.

 

I do. I think it is a good point to say that they would feel dead inside or feel like a failure if the apprentice failed. However to say they actually did die in reality in my opinion is a bad storyline.

 

darkchrono

I edited my post to add some things after to explain what I meant better.

Anyway, why would that be a bad storyline? People need each other to stay alive. They have to learn to rely on each other and gain strength etc.

 

It may well be another example of 'dying of a broken heart'. Grave indeed and quite sad. Lame or stupid not in the least.

 

I know that this is a fictional universe and they can make it as unbelievable as they want to at times. But in my opinion I think there does need to be a line drawn somewhere and the stupidity of someone sitting there until they died themselves is crossing the line for me.

 

To die of a broken heart isn't unfeasible, sir. Regardless if you personally accept it.

 

Can I ask why you'd think it would be stupid? As TheSilentInfluence says, it's a risk to take on an apprentice, for both. The Star Wars universe is painted BIG- big challenges, big consequences. In the hundreds/thousands of years we might presume this temple has been there, only two jedi ever "chose unwisely".

I think the stakes are appropriate.

 

It's not just that they're sitting until they died. They were trapped. The temple required that both entered, the supposition would be that both master and apprentice were required to leave as well.

 

Yes the whole Padme death sequence was one of the weakest aspects of the PT. As I said you guys can take that scene literally if you want to but I'm going to view it as a metaphor because I view it as such an idiotic storyline if it is meant to be taken literally.

 

Ok I forgot about that that they wouldn't be able to leave if the apprentice failed. That is more believable than them freely choosing to die if the apprentice failed.

 

Agreed.

 

No.

Remember TCW. when Sidious was able to sense Yoda on Moriband? same technique.

 

If that is the case why such a deadly machination?! Ilum was an illusion, I doubt they'd risk both apprentice and master or whatever like that just for training or learning.

How did he break the ice? Only water made solid was the door.
Easy to break if you have the will.
[chuckles] You-you said we would be trapped.
Not by the cave you were, but by your mind.
Lessons, you have learned.
Find courage, you did.

 

I have recently had the theory brought to my attention that Padme in fact was a dead woman walking from the moment Anakin choked her out and that the only things that were keeping her alive was the force protecting the children growing inside of her. I like that notion much more than Padme simply dying of a broken heart. A better thing for the Medical Droid to say would be that they can't explain why she is dying but instead they have no explanation she was even still alive.

 

loved the new episode. bringing the two trilogies together is the best part of this show.

 

The show has to walk a fine line between staking it's own turf, and being part of the STAR WARS universe when it makes sense. As has been discussed earlier in this thread, it makes sense for these character to interact with other parts of the rebellion, which makes for some interesting possibilities. Them meeting a character like Lando is a bit more of a stretch- and it's one of those instances where I might worry they're making the universe a bit too small, like how Yoda knows Chewbaca. Ultimately for me it comes down to execution-

 

I still feel like when the Ghost crew gets away from Lothal, they need to access better pirates. Hondo's pirates.

 

That was the temple inside the temple. (Just watched this ep this morning with my daughter in prep for the new Rebels).

However, when Asokha and crew arrived, and team-opened up the gate Yoda was already hanging out inside the Temple, waiting or them. Had he arrived with an earlier crew, and was just meditating in there or a while waiting or the next batch? He didn't get back on Asokha's ship, either. Perhaps it was Kyber Crystal Week with the Younglings, and Yoda was indeed just camping out inside the Illum Temple...

 

Hondo, where is my episode