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Full Series Ahsoka Tano: Jedi Knight

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by SateleNovelist11, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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    Didn't Filoni say she was going to have Obi-Wan's role ? So maybe she dies by Vader's saber like Obi-Wan. I would like that.
     
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  2. AllAboutThatMace

    AllAboutThatMace Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yes, I think that is exactly what will happen. Ahsoka now occupies roughly the role that Qui-Gonn did in TPM or Obi-Wan did in the ANH. She's significantly more powerful, experienced and capable than the protagonists and she knows a lot more and can provide crucial guidance for them, so when she dies it instantly raises the stakes for the heroes.
     
  3. SWITS

    SWITS Jedi Knight star 2

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    As sad as it may be, I agree that things seem set up now for Ahsoka to inevitably but probably appropriately die in Rebels.
    The Clone Wars series was primarily about Ahsoka and Anakin's relationship as Master & Apprentice. And it was very interesting because we were introduced to something new that we never knew about, in that we never knew Anakin had a Padawan Learner. I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed the fact that Anakin was training a female. A cocky, talented, brave young female warrior. She was something fresh, and fun, and she showed how badass she was in her lightsaber duels against Asajj Ventress and other opponents.
    The relationship Anakin & Ahsoka had was so strong like a big brother/little sister, or Coach/Star Player, father/daughter type of relationship. If you're in his shoes, how could you not love someone like her.
    She was so gifted and loyal.
    When she left the Jedi Order, it truly broke his heart. Which unfortunately helped lead him down the path to the Darkside. The Jedi Order turned their back on Ahsoka, and she felt very betrayed, so she chose to leave. It gave Anakin more reason to question the Jedi as well. The pain, the suffering, the sadness.
    Ahsoka left the Jedi Order when she was about 16 or 17. When we see her return in Rebels, it's about 14 years later. Obviously during the time she was gone, she must've observed from afar all the changes taking place in the galaxy. The emergence of the Empire. The emergence of Emperor Palptine. She knows Palptine, but does she know he's a Sith? Did she have access to that message that Obi-Wan sent to all the remaining Jedi in the galaxy shortly after Order 66?
    Anyway, it feels right for her to come back onto the scene serving an important role in the formation of the Rebel Alliance against the Empire.
    And who more worthy to fight against Darth Vader than Ahsoka Tano(aside from Obi-Wan & Yoda who are too busy hiding/waiting).
    I hope they have a couple of duels where Vader reveals his identity to Ahsoka, and she tries to persuade him to join the Lightside again.
    And for their final duel, I would like it to mirror the Luke vs Vader Final duel. Where Ahsoka has the upper hand, and even cuts off Vader's hand. But stops. And this is where the Emperor steps in and Lightning blasts Ahsoka while Vader looks on and chooses not to save her from her death. :( It would symbolize that there is no more good in him.
    It will be very sad and tragic, and I will probably cry. But I feel like it's probably meant to end this way.
    But then again she doesn't have to die! Everyone seems to come back to life in Star Wars. Darth Maul came back to life. Boba Fett came back to life apparently. Ahsoka doesn't have to die.
    By the way, sure Ahsoka isn't mentioned or show up anywhere in the OT, but neither does the crew of the Ghost. So, if she's gonna die, you might as well kill all of them.. Ezra, Kanan, Hera, Zeb, Sabine, and Chopper! :p
    May the Force be with us all!
     
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  4. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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    Death has no more meaning in Star wars unfortunately.
     
  5. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Agreed, and after the second season, Ahsoka and Anakin's relationship became much less important than Ahsoka herself. We got a little of it back in the final arc but in between, almost nothing.
     
  6. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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    I am willing to give them a shadow of doubt that they use her sparingly and not have her being all preachy and whatnot.
     
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  7. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    This is exactly me. It would also help if she would be witty and sarcastic.
     
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  8. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I am happy she refused to be knighted because it would make no sense to be knighted at age 16 like seriously.
     
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  10. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm sure being knighted, depending on the age a person was taken as a Padawan beforehand wouldn't be completely out there. Of course it depends on the person and what they did too

    But yeah, I'm glad Ahsoka refused the Knighthood too.
     
  11. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Being that she's encouraged Kanan to become a Jedi and to take on Ezra through Hera, she's attempting to bring back the Jedi Order of old.
     
  12. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Okay, now I'm lost.

    Do you mean when she tells Ezra that 'a new day' is beginning in the final? Unless I'm not remembering something else.
     
  13. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Look Anakin was knighted at 19 or 20 and if Ashoka came back she would be 16 how does that make sense.
     
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  14. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I know that. I wasn't talking about Ahsoka specifically though. I was saying that in the past, possibly or whenever; and depending on what a Padawan does they could get knighted earlier. Of course, it would have to be something incredibly heroic.

    So, it's not that far of a stretch to at least assume that Padawan's can get Knighted at a younger age. Ahsoka's done some amazing things, but I don't think she should have been knighted that young either.
     
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  15. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    I mentioned a long time ago regarding Anakin that his outlook and view as a Jedi was massively shaped by the fact that he was a Jedi born in battle. I think that it bears some mention that by the time Ahsoka would have become a Padawan to Anakin, it had largely turned into a military style organization as opposed to the peaceful galactic force that it had been said to be previously. If we use a bit of common deductive logic, promoting padawans at an accelerated rate would be within the realm of possibility to fill the ranks of Jedi Knights fallen in battle. I don't think that Ahsoka would have been one of those right away, but sooner than most other padawans.
     
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  16. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree completely. :)
     
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  17. Darth Blade

    Darth Blade Jedi Knight star 1

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    I really, really think this is something that was planned out YEARS ago. I mentioned it before we knew Fulcrum was Ahsoka - but I think they purposefully wrote arcs into TCW to have her training and working with rebels, knowing that they would have her leave the order at some point, continue working with rebel cells, and end up being an early leader in the Rebel Alliance.

    She worked with Cham Syndulla (probably where she originally met Hera since that's his daughter), the rebels on Onderon, and would have worked with Mandalorians rebels if the arc with her and Bo-Katan would have aired. The rebel group on Onderon specifically seems like a setup for this in retrospect - at the time I remember thinking it was strange that Kenobi and Anakin left Onderon after the first episode in the arc and let Ahsoka stay there - they had already trained the rebels, seemed like they were just asking for Ahsoka to get involved.

    Actually I just found this Dave Filoni quote on Wookiepedia that basically confirms part of my theory:

    "Before the Empire takes over, we already had these little groups out there… and they need a way to come together. And that's really where your Bail Organa's and your Mon Mothma's come in. They’re the way that you can galvanize these rebels, and you get a Rebel Alliance."

    ―Dave Filoni, on how the Onderon Rebels help set the stage for the Rebel Alliance[src]
    The Onderon Rebels were created for a four-episode arc in the fifth season of the animated television series Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The intention of the Onderon Rebels was to show one of the seeds of what would become the Alliance to Restore the Republic. According to Dave Filoni, the supervising director of The Clone Wars, stated that he and George Lucas intended the Onderon Rebels to be the first of many militias that were created by the Jedi during the Clone Wars, militias that would be brought together by characters such as Bail Organa and Mon Mothma to become the Rebel Alliance."

    So take that quote in mind, while knowing that Ahsoka had to have been doing something for the last 15 years. I think Dave Filoni has had this planned out for Ahsoka since before Rebels was even thought of.


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  18. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Yea but last we know of Onderon which lacked really modern tech, was that Lux wanted to align the planet with the Republic. Onderon could be like it was back during the CW, but instead of CIS it is Imperial. Could be like Lothal there to.
     
  19. Darth Blade

    Darth Blade Jedi Knight star 1

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    Lux could be someone like Bail - a member of the Senate who is a politician but supports the rebellion against the Empire in secret. But Saw Gerrera and the rest of that group trained by Ahsoka could be an active Rebel cell during this time period. Maybe even leaders in training others since they had the experience of winning a rebellion.


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  20. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh sweet baby Jesus in a manger lined with Rumpelstiltskin spun gold.

    Please do not bring back Lux.

    If we must have Ahsoka back, at least let her have both a sense of humor and...well, some ***damn sense.
     
  21. Alpha-Red

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    They can use dragonballs to wish back everyone on Alderaan killed by the Death Star? [face_dancing]
     
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  22. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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    Why stop with Alderaan ? let's bring everyone back.
     
  23. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    Unfortunately, I think her death is unavoidable. I think it's better to compare her style to Qui-Gon's than to that of Obi-Wan. Filoni did that because more people know who Obi-Wan is. But, yeah. And what TaradosGon
    Manager Emeritus said earlier, as well. In real life, I don't really like comparing people. It's okay to compare different groups of people to each other, but individuals? Existentially, that can be insulting, even if it is intended to be complimentary.
     
  24. episodenone

    episodenone Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Easy way and most logical way for Ahsoka to die -- Vader shows no remorse, no mercy, no connection to her any longer -- and kills her.

    Anyone in the know [including the Emperor] see this as the complete and utter evidence that Vader is Dark Side Sith through and through with no hope for redemption.

    Until -- Luke. Vader's son. Who, if Vader kills Ahsoka in similar fashion as he almost kills Luke -- will add another layer to what is going through Vader's mind when he finally is redeemed and kills the Emperor.
     
  25. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    Exactly. The third sentence is most important fo sho.