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Lit The Great River - The problem with the "the new EU"... A haven for Legends fans.

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Kypsolo, Sep 29, 2014.

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  1. ekrolo2

    ekrolo2 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I feel the same way about the Hapes Consortium.
     
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  2. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    I just about equally dislike both.
     
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  3. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    Yeah, down with the matriarchy!
     
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  4. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    The Battle of Ryloth, Malevolence Crisis, Second Battle of Geonosis, Battle of Umbara, etc. were side stories not related to the Clone Wars...? :confused:
     
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  5. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I just wish he didn't fight Anakin and or Obi-Wan all the time. Other Jedi meeting, battling, and failing to catch Dooku and A&O just missing out on Dooku would be better imo. Have Dooku send agents after Anakin to make Anakin stronger.
     
  6. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    How can there be a Battle of Ryloth when the planet is tidal locked? I like the idea of the Malevolence and the Subjugator-class heavy cruiser, but when I am completely uninterested in the major concepts from the show, what is the point in caring about a random battle? As with the Malevolence Crisis, what is the point in caring about random battles like the Second Battle of Geonosis and the Battle of Umbara when I am completely uninterested in the major concepts from the show? And I said generally for a reason.
     
  7. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, what "major concepts" are so uninteresting to you? Did you even give the show a chance or did you write it off because you heard some stuff?

    Also, what in the world does Ryloth being tidally locked have to do with there being a battle there or not? So tidally locked planets can't be warzones, too? Okay, so the show certainly implied that Ryloth wasn't tidally locked. So what? One minor detail they changed (and had the perfect right to do so). My point is, it was a major battle, not some unimportant side story as you were complaining about.
     
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  8. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    All of this:
     
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  9. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    I'm sorta bummed this never got a chance to be shown in its full glory. It had classic Anakin and Obi-Wan shinanigans, had direct ties to ROTS and the OT (Utapau and the Death Star laser), Grievous was great, the new villains had charisma (and a sort of Marvin the Marsian/Darth Helmet sort of vibe), plus there were land, space and even cave battles. And darnit if we didn't see more of the Utapau and Amani cultures! Hmph.

    If anything, it felt like the days of old -- like the stories we got in Republic comics or LOE.
     
  10. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ryloth being tidal locked was a key trait of the planet from the EU, so it is far from a minor trait.
     
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  11. Dante1120

    Dante1120 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    And that prevents a Battle from occurring there...why? Because it wasn't mentioned in the absolute, infallible Clone Wars Multimedia Project timeline?
     
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  12. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Again...not understanding why this prevents a battle, as Dante1120 said. The fact that they took away the tidal lock isn't the point; the point is, what you said earlier implied that there couldn't be a battle there. Why?
     
  13. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ryloth being tidal locked would make a Battle of Ryloth as depicted by TCW virtually impossible, because depending on which side of the planet it takes place on, ground forces would either roast or freeze to death.
     
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  14. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Uhm, from what I recall, there was a middle of the road zone. While it wasn't exactly pleasant it also wasn't as extremely hostile as the freezing or burning sides of the planet.

    Even on the burning sides, people had been shown as being able to exist as long as they had supplies. In KotOR, they have Twi Leks trekking across the desert to get to some cave dwelling. Yes, it's hostile because you have to watch out for heat storms, but that's not constant nor do people just burn up sticking out their toe.
     
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  15. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Nah, it wouldn't make it impossible, just thoroughly unpleasant. Which, you know, battles tend to be anyways.
     
  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    because there all in jail
     
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  17. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Why should they be?
     
  18. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Because they were captured
     
  19. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Why should they have been captured?
     
  20. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Because there evil and are you saying from a story perspective then it serves really to show that the Republic had major victories but other then that not so much

    Nothing you can do about it now.
     
  21. Force Smuggler

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    Where's the story potential for most of the Separatist leadership being imprisoned? We don't get to see the Separatist Council interact with the Separatist Parliament. More Grievous and Nute Gunray! Have we even gotten anything with Shu Mai? I'd like to see the Separatist Council and Dooku and Sidious interacting as well. Completely wasted because everyone is captured. What kind of victories did the CIS even have in TCW? Why should we care that they are trying to overthrow the Republic if their leadership is all in prison?
     
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  22. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    We never saw the Separatist Council at any point - as a Council - and yet they figure prominently in Eps 2 & 3. Something is certainly off about that.

    As far as Ryloth - what was the point? Why use a planet that only existed in the EU and then change it? "Featuring Twi'leks" is a red herring - they could've easily just used a new planet and the EU could deal with that a lot more than radically changing the nature of the world.
    Much like the moving of Rodia, it isn't the importance but the arbitrariness of the decisions that was troubling. Like I said, the separation of Legends from the new movies works out just fine in that respect.
     
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  24. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Thanks for the heads up, Rosencrantz.
     
  25. Cheerios4u98

    Cheerios4u98 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yeah I never understood the completely pointless changes like that. Or why "kyber crystals" are now totally different things than the original "Kaiburr crystal" from Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Why do you have to give it the same name, but have it be something completely different? Just name it something else!
     
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