Amph Avengers: Doomsday (and Secret Wars)

He's Nick Fury. Secrets is what he does.

 

i can see him having a secret bunker.... a secret weapons cache.....but a Carrier that the government didn't know about is stretching it. Plus i don't think he'd be able to keep the secret that he's not dead going for long like that.

 

The first 30 seconds of Agents of SHIELD tonight is a direct answer to that concern.

 

good, looking forward to it.

 

So I'm probably a bit late to the party, but I only recently found out that the Hulkbuster is nicknamed Veronica as a subtle nod to the Archie comics. I love clever jokes like that.

 

To be fair though, that was the original Helicarrier 64 that was mothballed when the Insight Helis were due to come online. I'd also guess that he was able to get to it with the help of Rhodey who is still (as far as I know) the official liaison between Stark Industries and the US Military.

 

i found it a bit odd that JARVIS runs everything for Stark, but once he's compromised it has no effect on Stark's weapons, and suddenly he has "Friday". Another little thing that could have been expanded upon slightly.

 

Agents of SHIELD.


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Personally, I felt that most of the individual Avenger films were better than the first Avengers film. The main problem is that they don't explain that the staff is affecting Loki's mind and making him worse and more damaged he was even at the end of the first Thor movie. They also don't explain exactly who all these aliens are, why they all die at once after the bomb goes off, etc. (It's implied that Loki is working for Thanos and his thugs, but most people who aren't diehard fans of the comics would not know.) I don't blame Wheddon or the actors for it. I blame his co-writer, the same guy who wrote X3. Don't get me wrong. I like the Avengers coming together and so on. I like the general premise of the movie. It's just a kids movie, and I prefer something more for adults. It was too dumbed down, and I'm not against something being dumbed down if it's fun and okay. But this was not interesting enough to suffice it. I didn't need it to be the deepest thing ever. I just needed it to explain more and make more sense. I am a fan of the individual Avenger films, except Iron Man 2 and 3, and Avengers: Age of Ultron. However, my favorite Avenger film is outside of the MCU. It's Black Widow and Punisher. I love that anime film. Black Widow should have her own live-action film.

I agree with the major points in these videos.

 

Zak Penn had nothing to do with it. His script was completely thrown out. Whedon wrote what we see in the Avengers.

 

Yeah, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, just in light of the huge sexist ****storm. I think the movie should have had Banner entering to rescue Nat and Nat just meets him on her way out with some kind of a clever quip. I think that would have been really easy and funny and way better than just having him rescue her. That cell wouldn't have held Nat for a hot minute.

As to the whole "monster" debate, it isn't the fact that she's sterile that's monstrous; it's the fact that she was essentially sterilized against her will and brainwashed into becoming a soulless assassin. It's a complete misreading of that scene to think that it's about how it's some horrible deformity for a woman to be sterile. I mean, honestly.

And I'd just like to say also that that scene is the emotional heart of the movie in a lot of ways. I found it to be the most effecting and the moment when I most empathized with a character. And taking a few minutes between explosions to tell a theater full of young guys to empathize with a female character? That's awesome. The blockbusters tell us over and over and over that the only people really worth empathizing with are white males; this movie took a breath and said, "Young male audience member, feel what this woman is feeling." Bravo. And, for me, I walk out of a summer blockbuster saying, "You know the most intense emotion of that movie? A woman's sorrow." Again, bravo. But, no, let's twist things until everyone's terrified to ever write a scene with a troubled woman again for fear of being labelled sexist. Do we want "strong" female characters or "deep" female characters? Well, I'll tell you which ones we like watching and which ones we empathize with. The great thing about Nat is that she's both. If the people shouting "sexist" on Twitter get their way, she'll only be one, like every other female action hero around. A flawless, untroubled, emotionally uninteresting, shallow, cardboard martial artist. Because that's feminist.

 

Yeah I never even realized people could read the 'monster' comment to refer to being sterile and NOT to the fact she was a soulless assassin killing people from the age of a child, and(going by what we saw in Agent Carter) probably killing her own classmates as well.

 

I just posted in the misogyny thread about why I think Nat isn't a sexist character in general and I suddenly realized two awesome things about her that I'd never really put together. I believe, and refresh my memory if this isn't so, that she's the only character to trick Loki and to not flinch at Banner being angry. Right?

Maybe it's not a "soothe the savage beast" thing that she's the one who can calm Hulk down. Maybe she's the only one with the nerve to get close to him. And Loki has literally fooled Gods; Natasha played him like a fiddle.

God, I love Black Widow.

 

In Avengers Widow was very wary of Banner. Banner got angry to test her and Widow drew her gun on him in a second and was clearly scared of the Hulk.
She tricked Loki, but she was definitely afraid of the Hulk.

 

Yeah not to mention how she was curled up in a ball rocking back and forth for half the battle after he hulked out on the helicarrier.

 

Which honestly is how any real human being, even with all her training and combat skills, should act after encountering the Hulk.

 

I agree, I'm just pointing it out because she definitely flinched at the Hulk.

 

So does everyone die in Ragnorock?

 

Assuming everyone but Thor and Loki will. Which is a shame as I like Sif.

 

Lady Sif ? Noooooooo

 

I'll take your word for it, Grievous. I know it's not a popular opinion. But I'm one of those who views it as such. At any rate, I thought Age of Ultron was fantastic, and I look forward to Civil War.

 

Will Padme die?

 

She's Thor's love interest. If she does it'll just to be brought back by the end of the movie. But I don't see any Asgardians but Thor and Loki surviving Ragnarok. They might bring Asgard back in later films and introduce new characters. Valkyrie can take Sif's spot as secondary female Asgardian warrior.

 

So I think one key thing you may be missing about Ragnarok is that, in the comics, it's not just the viking apocalypse. Not to say that's where they're going with it, but it was a Civil War plot point...