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A/V The Old Republic MMO: The New Official Thread

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Havac , Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    So, my theory the other day about how the Eternal Empire could have been Vitiate's second attempt, and have taken the galaxy by surprise in a series of hit-and-runs, showing up, BDZ, and gone, I realised: isn't that what Thrawn did?

    Even more: that's how the Mass Relays worked in Mass Effect, and if the Republic and Empire have fallen, maybe they could pull from Knight Errant and the idea of the New Sith Wars with the hyperlane network going offline, and only Zakuul knowing how to get around the galaxy-- or to Zakuul-- and thus able to overwhelm the existing governments in such a short time?
     
  2. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    So what happened to isotope-5?

    Maybe the EE stole it and used it to conquer the galaxy?
     
  3. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Thrawn fundamentally did use a lot of feints and raids before he pushed on his own targets and did, as you say, fundamentally conquer a quarter of the galaxy in half a year (if I remember my dates correctly), but he had a less complicated landscape.

    I'd liken it to the Nagai-Tof invasion - the Nagai use the fact that they are above the stellar halo to rain down on the galaxy, hitting systems as far removed as Champala, Mandalore and Ord Bueri before pushing with their main fleet from Kinooine. Just without the Tof's messing it up... Though the Nagai advance had been thwarted at Iskalon so who knows how it would have gone what with their surprise strike on Zeltros, far from their logical base of operations; I have literally no idea how the invasion would have gone without the Tof derailing it.


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  4. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    What is this hyperlane network?

    The beacons were obsolete in Exar Kun's time. Doubt the navcomputer became a lost technology.
     
  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Navigation data can be controlled though


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  6. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    On the scale of the whole galaxy with an unfathomable number of starships with navcomputers the idea seems silly on its face to me.
     
  7. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, this was the background of Knight Errant; the Sith Lords restricted nav data so ships literally knew where they were jumping only.


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  8. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    I don't think the ships are meant to record the data, its the hyperspace buoys that they have to download it from, due to how stars are constantly hurtling through space, with the explanation being that it was more difficult to plot hyperspace jumps than just taking a map with you and looking for which motorway exit you needed to get off.

    So when the Republic turned off all the beacons in the New Sith Wars? The Sith worlds became isolated, as their navcomputers rapidly became useless.

    ...yay for over reliance on cloud storage rather than physical backups?
     
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  9. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Didn't one of the writers or developers mention the armor of the Force Wars darksiders gradually becoming more Sith-like? Where was that interview?
     
  10. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    That's the way it worked in the great hyperspace wars. Navcomputers held all the available data, with the quality of the navcomputer determined by how complete it was. This is discussed in TEA where it is implied if not outright stated that the Falcon's navcomputer was so good because Chewie got some really complete data from this secret wookiee navigation guild that went underground during the Empire.

    It isn't like GPS where the Empire can just turn off the satellites and no one has navigation anymore.

    For it to work as in Knight Errant, the navcomputers manufactured in Sith territory would need to be deliberately designed to restrict travel in that way. Otherwise what's to stop the Galactic Empire from just quarantining Yavin or Hoth and just forcing a decisive battle that they'll easily win?
     
  11. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    SOURCE: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/...015-Knights-of-the-Fallen-Empire-Preview.html

    Press release:

    SOURCE: http://www.swtor.com/info/news/press-release/20150615
     
  12. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    OMG Threre was a spoiler thread for expansion which soon got deleted (of course it does not mean it is 100% reliable):

    SPOILERS ! About Vitiate - Valkorian connection. Take it with a pinch of salt.

    Vitiate and Valkorian are brothers. Twins story is an allegory to Vitiate and his brother. Valkorian is coming back to kill Vitiate.

    Update:
     
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  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That would confuse matters incredibly. Though also wouldn't as we didn't see Vitiate's childhood first hand.


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  14. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Interesting...

    I'd pondered if the twin was Vitiate when he was younger and exiled for killing his brother, but that idea also makes sense as it's basically the same thing, just a repeat of history.
     
  15. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ha ! Kind of funny. It reminds me of two LOST characters: brothers - one was wearing white clothes, the second brother was wearing black ones. Guy in white killed his brother. However, his consciousness survived and he was able to change "bodies" (assume the forms of decreased).

    And update:
     
  16. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Well, now they've gone and done it. I finally subscribed for the first time. Dangit.
     
  17. Darthmaul208

    Darthmaul208 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Reminds me of the two ninjas in Gi Joe. That movie sucked.
     
  18. Darthmaul208

    Darthmaul208 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  19. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I've been thinking about subbing against just to get what 12x XP for my characters I didn't max out, although this new expansion really has done nothing to excite me because it feels like a narrative non sequitur. I mean I know who I sound like as a downer like that but iunno.
     
  20. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nope, these are from Zakuul.

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, with 13 new chapters, there are bound to be more new planets besides Zakuul (and even Bothawui). Unless, of course, we're going to be revisiting old planets, which is totally plausible and kind of an awesome idea if done right.
     
  22. Zer0

    Zer0 Jedi Master star 3

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    I would mind if they added some other classic planets we have yet to see in this game.
     
  23. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So how did the Fallen Empire manage to take down both Republic and Sith Empire? Has there been any say on that? On the navigation theory, I figure it's possible but not as a galaxy-wide 'off' button but rather a bunch of planets just refuse to share their coordinates with the rest of the Galaxy. It'd protect you from pirates and the like, but you're not going to be able to counter a military fleet determined to find where you are, but not updating coordinates should be enough for a partial 'cut off'. Isn't this exactly what Tython and Dromund Kaas do?

    Still, I am interested how this Fallen Empire thing will work, and am considering resubscribing just for it. I mean the Fallen Empire needs to have some kind of Yuuzhan Vong-tier stuff to be able to take on two galactic superpowers. Or maybe they're not really defeated, and their major planets are still under their control, and this Fallen Empire just has a brief advantage for a time. That's the most plausible way I can think of for it to work, and it means they don't have to bother editing Coruscant, Korriban, etc too much to fit the new expansion.
     
  24. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It depends. If it rules the whole Rishi Maze, then it has more weight than the Nagai and they got as far as Iskalon, and more weight than the Tof's, who were attacking Thesme, Zeltros, Fondor and Iskalon, who had contested rule of Companion Besh.


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  25. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Havoc123, the trailer showed the brothers slaughtering Sith on Korriban, so that planet at least will probably be substantially changed.