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ST Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) in Episode VII

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Momotaros, May 2, 2014.

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  1. RC-2473

    RC-2473 Jedi Master star 4

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    I think you and me have the same vision for kylo we should write the next film eh?
     
  2. Darth Claire

    Darth Claire Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm assuming this
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    ;)
    ok but in all seriousness, it's probably nothing important. Maybe a recap of what happened at SDCC or some editorial piece about a connection between Endor and Kylo Ren.
     
  3. Jonipoon

    Jonipoon Jedi Master star 4

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    There is really no difference between killing younglings or Ewoks.

    Ring any bells?
     
  4. Chewies_bandolier

    Chewies_bandolier Force Ghost star 4

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    Eh. Vader/Anakin:

    - massacred indigenous nomads on Tatooine
    - was by all accounts, a child solider/pilot prior to being a Jedi padawan or whatever..
    - appears to have participated in the whole scale massacre of the equivalent of a Jedi elementary school (double handed too!)
    - attempted to murder his ex before attempting the same with his former teacher
    - was a willing participant in the planetary genocide of all things Alderaanian
    - tortured his daughter (on at least two occasions)
    - eventually managed to murder his former friend and teacher
    - attempted to shoot down his son on multiple occasions
    - generally tortured, strangled at whim and murdered anyone who annoyed him (RIP Ozzel)
    and finally, tortured, maimed and emotionally abused his son on at least two occasions (it sure took him a while to react to that force lightening in ROTJ)

    I would say that Kylo has a bit of work ahead of him, if he plans to be a bit more violent ;)
     
  5. JediKnightWax

    JediKnightWax Jedi Master star 4

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  6. forzaskywalker

    forzaskywalker Jedi Knight star 2

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  7. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    @forzaskywalker
    you should have posted from the full post from the original, that post from the Independent is just a summary, this is the full post.
     
  8. forzaskywalker

    forzaskywalker Jedi Knight star 2

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  9. Huttslime

    Huttslime Jedi Padawan star 2

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    He doesn't seem like he's enjoying himself, but to be honest he seems like kind of a brooding dude in interviews.
     
  10. Rabs

    Rabs Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Other than the abandonment issue this basically describes Anakin. Only child and deeply troubled. Check. Delusions of grandeur. Check. Obsessed narcissist. Check. I think the only difference between Kylo and Anakin will be that these flaws will be rooted much deeper in Kylo, making him irredeemable where Anakin was able to be redeemed. Kylo may never quite reach the iconic status that Vader has, but I think Kylo will prove to be a much more dangerous villain than Vader ever was. A lot of people scoff at that idea but I think in his zeal to be like his grandfather Kylo will surpass Vader's atrocities and shake the GFFA to its core. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
     
  11. All_Powerful_Jedi

    All_Powerful_Jedi Force Ghost star 4

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    I think there's a key difference between the two and that you hit on it in your post. Whereas Anakin had that sympathetic side where he lamented the loss of his mother and having no father figure (I mean, yeah, Obi-Wan and Palpatine filled the void, but Anakin was always in search of one regardless), Kylo Ren may actively hold his parents accountable and has that side that would destroy them if given the chance.

    Plus, I think Kylo will be much worse than Anakin got to be since he likely won't be dismembered (at least, not yet).

    Either way, this won't be Anakin part II. He has the potential to be so much worse.
     
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  12. deneuves

    deneuves Jedi Knight star 4

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    Anakin was also a slave for the first 10 years of his life. Kylo probably wasn't since his mom is a princess and his father a general.
     
  13. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    So who else thinks Kylo is really lame? He just looks like a bad Vader ripoff... I mean even George Lucas managed to pull off a completely new looking villain in TPM.
     
  14. JediAce1

    JediAce1 Force Ghost star 5

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    And yet when it was all said and done, Maul turned out to be a lame villain because he was mute and died in the first movie.
     
  15. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    That's not my point, I was merely talking about appearance.
     
  16. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I really think he looks the part. Just how well the character has been written and Driver's performance are all that remains to be seen in my opinion. I have faith in Adam as an actor. JJ and Kasdan have kept their part in the bargain fingers crossed..
     
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  17. RC-2473

    RC-2473 Jedi Master star 4

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    kylo has a cool look maul's really wasn't that cool so w/e
     
  18. Nipuhanipera

    Nipuhanipera Force Ghost star 5

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    I can't imagine Han or Leia giving their child such a sinister name as Kylo Ren. It has to be a title or something.
     
  19. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    lol.
     
  20. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't care if you hate TPM (because everyone does...), you can't deny that Maul was cool as hell.
     
  21. RC-2473

    RC-2473 Jedi Master star 4

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    my overall opinion on tpm doesn't even factor into it. maul's look is one that was an overall good concept but in practice also kind of reminds me of one of those corny black metal album covers.

    kylo ren's design is cool kind of medieval in a way that fits the character.
     
  22. entourage

    entourage Jedi Knight star 3

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    If you want to see what a pissed Adam Driver looks like (beginning of the video):

     
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  23. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm hoping Kylo will be a more violent, raging villain.
     
  24. entourage

    entourage Jedi Knight star 3

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    I think so far the teasers show just that. His walking style alone in teaser 1 was great. So random and kinda pissed. The way he swings that saber in teaser 2 is pure aggression. I like it.
     
  25. Rey771

    Rey771 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Drivers' Kylo should be much better than Maul was in TPM.

    Yes Maul was "cool", but I never understood the obsession with him. So many fans wanted him back for sequels and whatever, but that would have been a mistake. All it would have done is exposed Ray Park. Nothing against him, but the guy isn't an actor. He held up his end during the fight scene, that's obviously why he was hired, but other that he didn't really have a character. You could get away with dubbing for Vader, but if you can see someone's face, and they are the main villain... get an actor.

    Driver is an actor so they can actually do something interesting with his character, and he's young so he should be able to hold his own and not look ridiculous in fight scenes... unlike the farcical Dooku and Emperor lightsaber fights with CG facial replacements and whatever. He's one of the main things I'm looking forward to in this movie. Frankly I'd prefer to stick with him through multiple films. Not crazy about this Del Toro rumor, especially after seeing him in Guardians of the Galaxy. I have no idea what that was, but he clearly didn't take the role very seriously. Looked like he was there for the paycheck only.
     
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