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Amph Marvel's The Fantastic Four: First Steps

Discussion in 'Community' started by Moviefan2k4, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    I'm seeing reports that people are buying tickets to other films and sneaking in to see this film. Apparently the theaters are near empty too.

    There is an overwhelming consensus though: The film takes too long to get to the origin, the motive that leads to the accident is terrible, Sue is essentially left "in the kitchen", the gritty backstory for characters (Ben's new abusive past) is terrible, and the whole thing falls apart by the third act. Also, the reshoots are incredibly obvious thanks to Kate Mara's wig and Reed's shaven/unshaven face changing one scene to the next. CGI is apparently awful with the Thing's size changing depending on the shot and the film is devoid not just of action, but more importantly of any family or team dynamic. There is no development apparently between Ben and Sue and Johnny for example, he's basically just with Reed. There is little interaction between the Storm siblings and the 'romance' between Reed and Sue is barely there as well. All of this, confirmed by multiple reviews now, make me thoroughly uninterested in ever seeing this film really. It truly is the FF In Name Only.

    The Story films did a lot of things terribly, terribly wrong. But they did get the team and family dynamic right. This film sounds like four people who sort of work together because...[face_plain]
     
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  2. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Alien 3. He was not complimentary of the process, but he was a very talented first time movie director on his first big budget film.
     
  3. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yodaminch Why are people buying tickets to other films and sneaking in to fantastic four?
     
  4. vin

    vin Chosen One star 6

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    This epic disaster has plunged into single digit territory. 9% on RT.
     
  5. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony 2x Two Truths&Lie winner/SOS Person of Culture star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    I don't know if I should buy a Pixels ticket and see Fantastic Four, or if I should buy a Fantastic Four ticket and see Pixels...oh Ted 2 is still in the theater near me, I should give Seth MacFarlane more money!
     
  6. Gorefiend

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    Do what I did and catch an Open Air Screening of Fury Road and it was glorious! :D
     
  7. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony 2x Two Truths&Lie winner/SOS Person of Culture star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    If I find one near me, Gorefiend, I certainly will!

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  8. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4093&p=.htm

    On 3,995 screens, Fox's Fantastic Four should win the weekend, even in the headwinds of withering reviews, with an estimated $45M.

    That $11,264 per screen estimate is lower than the opening weekends of either the 2005 and 2007 Tim Story-directedFantastic Four films, even without adjusting for inflation. The 2005 Fantastic installment, which starred Jessica Alba as Sue Storm, Ioan Griffudd as Reed Richards, Michael Chiklis as The Thing and Chris Evans, in his first incarnation of a super-hero, as Johnny Storm, opened to a then-super $60.1M, in 3,602 theaters, for $16,700 per. As tickets were $2.20 less expensive then the adjusted take today would be $80.8M for the same amount of tickets sold.

    Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, the lumbering sequel made $58M (3,959 theaters, $13,700 per) its opening weekend, which would translate to $72.6M given today's prices.
     
  9. gezvader28

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    these Marvel movies have been so well handled , and they clearly have very clever producers who seem to have a good sense of what will work , you have to wonder how they let this get so out of control .
     
  10. deneuves

    deneuves Jedi Knight star 4

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    This is 20th Century Fox - who've made such masterpieces as X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Not Marvel Studios.
     
  11. vin

    vin Chosen One star 6

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    Red flag #1: FANT4STIC
     
  12. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    Wolverine seemed ok to me , don't remember it being a disaster .

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  13. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Not The Wolverine which had third-act issues but otherwise was a solid film. The first Wolverine film X-Men Origins: Wolverine which had awful Wade Wilson / Deadpool, adamantium amnesia bullets, etc...
     
  14. Adam of Nuchtern

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    My favorite part about the adamantium bullets is that they never gave them to the mutant whose powers were entirely about shooting stuff.
     
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  15. gezvader28

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    yeah , I meant the first one .
     
  16. TiniTinyTony

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  17. heels1785

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    Who is responsible for such masterpieces as Iron Man 2.
     
  18. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Let's be honest though: you and I agree on that film, but it came in on RT at 72% and made tons of liquid cash. I call it a misfire, but I also think Age of Ultron was very similar though had the additional years of backstory to actually make the pathos make sense.

    EDIT: Also, more importantly, it's at a 3.7/5.0 on RT users, not critics. FF is 2.5...
     
  19. Gorefiend

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    The US is strange o_O



    Iron Man 2 has a Formula One car getting destroyed with a Plasma whip! Trust me if you are European who hates that sport with a passion nothing ever will top that moment!
     
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  20. Diggy

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    Behold! I have found something even dumber than this film. An article about it.


    Marvel Braces For a Real Box Office Disaster with the “Fantastic Four,” Director Disowns It





    Bad news is unusual for Marvel, home of “The Avengers,” “X Men,” and “Spider Man” series at Disney, Fox, and Sony respectively. The comic book movie company has had an extraordinary run of successes, even making “Ant Man” into a hit when its launch was a little shaky last month.



    But today Marvel braces for a bad weekend with the new “Fantastic Four.” Coming from Fox, “FF” had promise. It stars a bunch of current young actors who are all doing great– Miles Teller, Michael B. Jordan, Kate Mara. Jamie Bell, and so on.

    However, “Fantastic Four” has a staggering 87 negative reviews and only a 9% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Pretty much everyone who’s seen it, hates it.

    Director Josh Trank didn’t like it much, either. He Tweeted this, spelling “received” wrong:

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    Trank isn’t having a very good summer. Last month he left the new Star Wars stand alone movie at Disney/LucasFilms.

    Now we wait and see all the stats on how badly “Fantastic Four” does this weekend…

    UPDATE: I’m getting a lot of email that this isn’t a Marvel movie. Well, Stan Lee is listed as executive producer, and the Marvel logo appears at the front. Fox does a lot of business with Marvel because of X Men and Wolverine. They are in business together. Marvel wouldn’t let this movie out without its own approval.







    http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/08/0...r-with-the-fantastic-four-director-disowns-it
     
  21. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Wait, really? Not understanding the rights-grab nature of some of these properties?
     
  22. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, I was initially surprised this critic didn't know the rights about Marvel characters and that Marvel Studios didn't have creative control of the film, much more final approval. But then I think most of the general audience wouldn't know that either. I'm sure Marvel Studios isn't liking that their banner is presented before this film.

    The Josh Trank deleted his tweet above. I'm sure it probably was in violation of his contract with Fox. I'm wondering if Trank will be able to talk about the final cut and production issues in his next interview with Kevin Smith. Listening Collider's Movie Talk, one of the panelists mentions the film lacks any action beats and Fox Studios cut the budget of the production which eliminated three big action scenes. Moreover, supposedly Simon Kinberg and another person try to salvage the film the best they can. I would really like to hear what Trank had plan for the film and the production issues.
     
  23. I Are The Internets

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    This is looking to be the Howard the Duck of the 2010's. I don't say Catwoman since that's a DC property.
     
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  24. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    There was a Howard the Duck film in 2010?
     
  25. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    But they aren't putting out published articles. He should do his research. The edit just compounds the error, when he had the chance to check on what he was spouting.