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Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by DarthTalonx, Jul 28, 2015.

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  1. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    I'll just say I like the story of Secura, Vos, and Volfe Karkko. Wouldn't mind that being portrayed on screen in some form or fashion.
     
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  2. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I would not wish to take your "hot females" away from you, seriously. I know many (but not most) do like Slave Leia and skimpily dressed Aayla, but for me, personally, I find the prevalence of skimpily clad females to be problematic when males are not (again, Oola was fine because she was a dancer and that dress was appropriate for her role. So was Leia's slave outfit when she was a slave - my issue if you want to call it that - is that has become her iconic image even though it's a minor part of who she was.)

    I suspect my sensitivity has to do with the fact that I'm older than almost all of you and I grew up with "woman as sex object" - the model draped over cars to sell the cars, etc.
     
  3. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    When did this happen? I was thinking Luminara was one of the few who hadn't been used in this way.

    When Valairy mentioned it potentially happening to Luminara, I actually got slightly angry at the thought.
     
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  4. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't think we usually agree on the sex-positivity aspect of feminism but I definitely agree with you here. Aayla's depiction in Jedi Crash distracted me from the story and that was without finding her sexually attractive.

    Enough already. I'm glad Hera is a pilot.

    And FFS, Disney/LFL, leave Luminara alone.
     
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  5. Heero_Yuy

    Heero_Yuy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, I was sort of being tongue and cheek, but I was referring to her capture on Geonosis. Nothing more risqué than that.
     
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  6. Davak24

    Davak24 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "Other Jedi besides Plo and Ahsoka having the spotlight? That's funny!" -Dave Filoni
     
  7. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Master star 4

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    Agreed, I mean that was how Secura dressed and also reflected her cheeky, slightly seductive and energetic character.

    I think Aayla's costume was perfect in TCW. It reflected her Twi'lek origin - nearly all dancers or Twi'leks dressed a little less than others, maybe because of the climate or their culture. At the same time it showed her personality - slightly cheeky, energetic and sultry/seductive.

    I think Aayla would make a great female lead, and tbh her emerging victorious in a Twi'lek slave girl story as her undercover would be rather good!
     
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  8. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Aayla's outfit actually complimented her personality and role well. Not to mention, it made it interesting that different Jedi had their own preferences. This was meant to be a golden age too.

    I think Leia also complimented the story in ROTJ and was iconic. A similar role for Aayla on the movie screen or in TCW or Rebels couldn't hurt.

    Yeah I thought she was just captured lol. An undercover Twi'lek dancer role for Aayla would be in line with other stories. Or maybe Aayla for the whole slavery planet arc would have been cool. More Aayla in general in battles, etc would have been awesome.

    A clone Aayla for Rebels perhaps?

    Hera is a great character. Glad she is the pilot too. Not every great pilot is strong with the Force. Would be cool if Hera was related to that Ryloth Twi'lek General - he said to Mace Windu - "And how long before I am fighting you Master Jedi?" A flashback to that scene would be epic.

    Still, a return of Aayla to the big screen or tv as she was portrayed in TCW would be good. We didn't have enough of her. Personally I thought her outfit was fine, it reflected her cheekiness, sultry character as well as her energetic nature.
     
  9. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Do you mean Cham Syndulla?

    Because they are related. He's her father.

    But I wish we got to see more of Aayla in the Clone Wars too. She's a fantastic character.
     
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  10. Vorax

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    hehe, meant Maul there, damn typos. But yeah some males though would often be topless and showing off their muscles in SW, Maul, Skywalker, Vos and Cade I can think of off hand. Their cloths would often be torn to shreds and stuff too.
     
  11. Revyl Ren

    Revyl Ren Jedi Master star 2

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    As far as scantily clad females go, I much rather prefer Ewok-Leia to Slave Leia. Something about that loose haor and simple dress... ;)
     
  12. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There's much to explore about Aayla's background I think, especially now that we have a new canon. How about a comic miniseries about her during the Clone Wars or her Padawan years?
    And since the next arc of that Kanan comic is set during the Clone Wars, an appearance and interaction with Caleb Dume is entirely possible...

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  13. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Master star 4

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    Wow, that is awesome!

    Yes totally right? TCW Aayla was absolutely brilliant, please bring us more! A clone Aayla perhaps for Rebels?

    Not entirely sure why we didn't see more of Aayla in CW. Maybe her in battle or in her own episodes with other Jedi. Or even her undercover in the whole Zygeria slave arc? That would have made more sense.

    Agreed, so why not match that with Aayla. Imagine Secura in the Zygeria slave arc.

    Wow, that sounds good too. Yeah Aayla's background or even her in TCW would be awesome. We needed more of her. Not sure why they didn't show more episodes of her in battles or maybe undercover. We only got glimpses. The whole Zygeria slave arc was an opportunity right there to have Aayla in it!
     
  14. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Master star 4

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    Imagine an Aayla scene like that, with her undercover as a Twi'lek slave for instance..

    Or else, we could see her leading troops in a battle to defend a world and her interacting with a civilian prince (who conceals this from her at the start after saving her life). Imagine seeing someone being smitten with a Jedi. Have a grown up version of Lux for Aayla?
     
  15. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    We had other interesting Twi'leks like Rianna Saren & Cesi Eirriss. Probably them two plus Aayla woud kick poor Lux's butt with their lucky lekku.
     
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  16. Heero_Yuy

    Heero_Yuy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anyone giving Lux a beating is more than acceptable.
     
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  17. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Master star 4

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    Lol. Wouldn't it be interesting to have had maybe a young prince of a world be smitten with Aayla when she is assigned to his world to lead its defence against a CIS attack? Maybe they first meet when she saves his life. He is almost speechless and struggles not to be nervous around her. It seems like that would be likely with someone who met her for the first time! He can save her during the episode. And maybe they stay in touch?

    Very good point. Yes, it would be nice to see someone flirt or be smitten with Aayla, and maybe her to reciprocate. It seems highly probable that a citizen who met her would be in awe. Could a young prince her age, meet her on his world and they save each other's lives whilst defending it from a CIS attack? Something similar to a Mon Calamari arc?

    Lol. Got to love both Endor-Leia and Slave Leia. Can we have an undercover slave Aayla? We should have had Aayla in the Zygeria arc, what an opportunity! Or else can we see Aayla being posted to defend a world and a young prince is smitten with her and she reciprocates?
     
  18. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You keep posting that about Zygeria and wanting a prince to fall in love with her. Do you need a certain number of "oh, yes" or something, because I'm sure more than just me gets it - you want a skimpily dressed hot Twi-lek with a noble prince salivating all over her.

    I'd like to see her "break type" if we bumped her up to a main eye-candy, oops, mean major supporting character.
     
  19. DarthTalgus

    DarthTalgus Force Ghost star 4

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    This thread is so creepy, seriously [face_worried]
     
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    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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  21. DarthTalonx

    DarthTalonx Jedi Master star 4

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    Lol. The Zygeria story would have been cool with someone like Aayla in it. It would also make sense with a Twilek being undercover. The prince idea or ruler/leader or general being smitten with her was a separate idea for a different type of story. Tbh, it would be cool to see more non Jedi and Jedi interaction like Admiral Yularen with Skywalker for instance. That was my thinking.

    In terms of a skimpily dressed hot Twilek, then Aayla matches that yes. But tbh, I think she dresses like that as she is comfortable with it. I personally am fine with her outfit, think she looks great! But her character is also outgoing and energetic which is cool. I think the CGI Aayla is perfect in TCW.

    I too would like her to be bumped up to a more major character in a show. Yes, bumping up to main eye-candy as you suggest would be good too! But just generally, we need to see more Jedi in general if we are in an era of the Jedi. And seeing more Aayla would be awesome, especially as a major supporting character, main character or yes main eye-candy.

    This is also all meant to be an age when Obi Wan states in ANH "thousands of Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy". So we should be seeing more of them, if we are to reflect that. Otherwise it feels hardly different to Rebels for instance where we also have one or two Force wielders in action. And the whole Zygeria idea was an opportunity to utilize such a character for the purpose of having her be more prominent whilst being in context. It is the same as seeing Padme when we encounter Naboo or a major move in the Senate.

    Who is Caleb Dume?

    How come? I don't quite understand any queries over how the characters dress - I presume Aayla dresses like that as she likes it or is comfortable? Some Jedi dress in black, rather than brown robes, and some even where trousers/leggings or body armour or wear bracelets or designs from their own culture.
    How? Every character must like the way they dress, thus that particular Jedi dresses in that way - e.g. not all of them where brown robes, some are donned in black, others wear leggings, some wear hoods, some wear bracelets from their own respective worlds or cultures. Not all Jedi wear some standard Jedi uniform. Yoda and Mace don't dress the same. Although, it did seem odd in TCW that when on cold worlds, Jedi didn't seem to wear a long cloak as well (e.g. Mace, Anakin and Obi Wan in the films).
     
  22. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    More Jedi - yes, I'm a fan of that idea. Jedi, the Force, and lightsabers are big draws for me.

    Eye candy - not so much. Male or female. I hesitate to go so far as to call it pandering, but it doesn't serve any purpose, IMHO. It objectifies women -especially Aayla and others who canonically dress "down." That seems to be their main appeal.

    Now, I *could* potentially see a storyline where Aayla would be a good choice to go undercover since it seems canonically female Twi-leks were seen as desired objects for many males and secondary status to males within their own culture (this may NOT be canon, but seemed to be once). If it were a more dramatic storyline (not a 30 min TCW episode), with sociological undercurrents - sure, I'd watch it. It would be even more "fun" dare I say it if Shaak Ti was to be the undercover Twi'lek.

    But usually the board talk is about how "hot" Aayla is, how it would be great to see her even more skimpily displayed as a slave with a male drooling over her - sounds like a wish fulfillment to me - pandering to OOU rather than thoughtful storytelling. Or, again, objectification, of a female for the sake of the male fans.

    To resurrect an old joke of mine that horrified many a few years back - what if Obi-Wan had been put into a loincloth on Zygeria because - well because he was enslaved, and slaves shouldn't be wearing much in the way of clothing, especially when they are considered to be good looking.
     
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  23. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Caleb Dume is Kanan Jarrus' real name. After Order 66, he changed it from Caleb Dume to Kanan Jarrus to hide his identity.

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  24. DarthTalgus

    DarthTalgus Force Ghost star 4

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    You see the main thing wrong with this thread is that it's not a thread about Aayla the person, it's about Aayla the ''sexy'' Jedi. Yes it's acceptable to find a character attractive but when the characters appearance is the only thing on the agenda it only creates a very weird atmosphere in the thread. A Aayla thread should be about the character, Not one man's strange obsession/fantasy of her being dominated by a prince.
     
  25. Davak24

    Davak24 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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