Lit Wookieepedia, the Star Wars wiki

I would agree, Wookieepedia definitely isn't friendly.

 

Guess I'm not your friend, then. Pity.

 

Have you read it from the beginning? People here used to be quite excited about Wookieepedia. That didn't change for no reason.

I'm sorry if you feel put upon when people complain about it (indeed, I'm sorry for reviving this thread if that's all it's going to lead to), but don't act like people are just arbitrarily hostile to Wookieepedia because they feel like it.

 

I WAS a Wookieepedian, and a rather regular one, until I was subjected to an unfriendly environment there that promoted my eventually NOT being one. Because you were in all likelihood not yourself a Wookieepedian at that time, nearly a decade ago now (and even if you were, you were not involved), I don't see how any of this legitimately-earned criticism could be construed as affecting you personally, because it certainly isn't AIMED at you personally. If you take personal hurt from our points of view, which have been purchased at the expense of a lot of time, experience, and GENUINELY bruised feelings, I can only say sadly that that's ultimately not on us. We're talking about legitimate experiences we've had with the site; we can't simply UN-experience them for the sake of others here. And we're not trying to start fights; we're BEING HONEST.

 

So, you're basically keeping an initially positive thread alive to keep a ten-year-old grudge going? I don't see the point.

I was there ten years ago, though nearly not as much prominent as today. And I'm not naive; I know very well many things are not right at all--I could give you names even. I'm just not ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater, especially when I'm in that bath too.

 

Well, as I said, I didn't bump the thread just now to complain in the first place - merely to note that I was amused and saddened by the death of a long-time running joke.

Though as I've said before, I didn't actually consider that page a flaw of Wookieepedia. I actually thought it was interesting to know which random extras from the films had been given names and backstories, and which hadn't.

 

Well, then you're in luck: we don't propose to throw the metaphorical baby out either. But we ARE thinking that the bathwater needs changing, or else it's just bad for the baby.

The point of voicing any such grievances is to provide those who will eventually carry out those reforms with an accurate picture of what needs fixing. You CAN'T do that without the facts, without hearing from those people who were on the business end of what's gone wrong with Wookieepedia.

 

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that pepoluan called it "Wooki"? That's basically a war crime tbh.

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I'm joking.

 

I gave up trying to be actively involved after trying to get answers on why certain ship class articles were the way they were, only to be shot down or ignored on the talk pages.

 

Yeah, I don't criticize Wookieepedia out of nothing. I was extremely active in it from the start for the first three or four years or so, and loved it, and defended it against criticisms. And I was driven away by all the many myriad issues I won't recap here for fear of causing you undue mental anguish. And every time I've tried to get more involved in the site again those same issues, and in some cases those same individuals, have literally made it impossible for me to participate.

I would also add that if people criticizing a website that you are a member of, and which you admit is deeply flawed, is enough to make you genuinely upset, that is not really the fault of the people making the criticism. I might even venture to say it could be seen as an example of the damaging proprietary mentality the Wookieepedia elite have towards the site.

 

I just don't see what's the problem of adding at least a picture of the proto-AT-AT. The canon article isn't that small. Blanket reverts seem to happen every time a new user or someone with just an IP address does something, regardless of validity. For someone meant to document and investigate a fictional universe, there's little emphasis on doing that in those cases. Maybe that's why people feel less than enthusiastic about the way the Wookiee is run?

Then there's all the misguided new articles made by newbies where they make the cardinal mistake of forgetting sources. Instead of spending ten seconds to at least google a reference, the admins/mods/inquisitors/whatever-new-fancy-title, just post the stock "PROVIDE SOURCE OR THIS WILL BE DELETED". And then make the same article three months later when they got the source themselves...

 

All right, all right. Nothing to see here. Won't break that harmony of yours anymore.

 

Lela I do have to ask are there plans to have the wook pages automatically open the canon articles instead of the legends articles (as many of them do now)? Regardless of how some people may feel about the subject it makes since to have what is currently going on with Star Wars be directly linked to instead of storylines that have been rebooted.

When people get home from TFA they are going to be looking for info about Han, Luke, and Leia within the new canon. Not what Han, Luke, and Leia did in the NJO.

 

the tab system is there but all honesty the pages should be defaulting to canon across the site by now.

 

I agree it's just so much more work to click Canon!

But in all seriousness it should go to Canon automatically for people who don't know much about starwars it would be a big help.

 

There is definitely going to be some quadrant of people looking for Star Wars information before seeing the movie who, hell, may not even know the difference between what exactly "canon" means (it's a fairly mid-level nerdspeak term, honesty) and sure as heck don't know what "canon" and what "legends" is and what the tabs there are for. I'd wager the site would see an uptick in traffic leading up to TFA, not afterwards. And it's less than 30 days out! And Chewie still got crushed by a moon!

 

With how my phone loads wookieepedia, it actually is a lot of work.

 

Wookieepedia's mobile site (or rather, the mobile site design used across Wikia as far as I know) is amazingly horrible. Like, one of the worst I've ever seen anywhere.

 

Is Anna Kendrick going to get her own page on Wookieepedia? She's in an ad for Battlefront. to hell with canon, I just want an excuse to have more web pages devoted to Anna Kendrick, personally.

 

It's not perfect, but I still think it is very good, and I probably use it dozens of times whenever I am reading any Star Wars novel or comic and something piques my interest, or I remember something from an old source, but can't pin down who/why/when.

I almost never use the regular version of the site. It loads WAY too slow, scrolls slowly, and has too many ads. My main beef with the mobile version is when I click "back", it takes me back to the original page, before I clicked "Appearances" or whatever, and then have to scroll way down on the list again.

 

Also, French Girl With TIE Fighter Neck Tattoo.

 

Wikia really needs to change their mobile site. Many people depend on mobile devices to access the internet. Anyone Wikian who reads this should say something.

 

I joined Wookieepedia a few years ago, and my only intent was to make it the best Star Wars resource it could be. Then, this admin Toprawa and Ralltiir decided to take a disliking for me, and he flipped **** every time I broke one of Wookieepedias editing rules. He made me nervous, and as I got nervous, I made more editing mistakes. Then he banned me for a whole year, and then banned me permanently from the wiki. Then whenever I try and make edits on a different computer, he blocks me again. He won't let me start out fresh. He'd also rather have the wiki be less informant then let me back on. He decided he didn't like me, so he decided to make it impossible for me to participate in what is a oligarchy that bullies anyone who isn't an admin. I suffer from depression; who knows if I would have commited suicide with not being allowed to edit. Toprawa doesn't care. He just cares about himself.

 

That sounds along the lines of several people's stories.