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Lit From Endor to Exegol - The State of the Galaxy Discussion Thread (Tagged Battle of Jakku Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralNick22 , Sep 6, 2015.

  1. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    hahaha the first thought I had on watching it in-game was "people in Lit are NOT going to like that."


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  2. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Y'know what's going to be odd? I highly doubt TFA will tell us more about the Battle of Jakku than we already know. "There was a big heavy New Republic / Imperial war here decades ago" I'm guessing the third Aftermath book will really be the central showcase of the Battle of Jakku. (I actually really liked the pace of Aftermath and I think if Wendig literally just did an entire book set at the battle of Jakku, cover to cover, I think he could pull it off)
     
  3. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I've said this before, but I really don't want the third book in the Aftermath trilogy to be about the Battle of Jakku. I liked Aftermath a lot, and I'm openly dismissive of a lot - if not nearly all - of the complaining about it. But I did think that Wendig's style made action sequences kind of disjointed. In some ways that's realistic, but I'm not sure it's appropriate for the Battle of Jakku, given all its buildup as the big decisive turning point in the war. Look at the end space battle in Aftermath, and consider if that's really all the detail you'd want on Jakku.

    I do think it might be interesting to see the 'main plot and interludes' model applied to a single large battle, though.
     
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  4. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red 18X Hangman Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    Mmm yeah, I thought of that, but somehow I don't think repulsors or tractor beams would be powerful enough to slow the fall to a sufficient degree. But, assuming that they are...those soldiers are still standing really close to the impact point...
     
  5. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yup.
     
  6. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Would figure the on board weapons, and the likely powerful reactor, might also make a big boom with such large vessels coming down on the surface. Other than ships taking out planets with hyperspace collisions, I think most other crash landings have pretty "soft" in comparison from memory. That Venator crashing in one of the Clone Wars episodes springs to mind, and of course the Providence in RotS.
     
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  7. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Which was a Saxtonism, wasn't it?

    And whether it was or not, honestly we're probably better off eliminating that, since it just raises a whole deal about the possibility of doing it deliberately.
     
  8. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Correct sir, one mention in a ICS, and then one in a WotC sourcebook saying that a hyperspace collision even with shielding up could still severely damage a planet due to the radiation. I guess the Shawken weapon would technically count too. I think thats it off the top of my head. Only thing even close to a weaponized intentional collision in the Legends universe I guess would be the Old Republic mass drivers battleships, and the Hutt Planechanga. But yeah deliberate hyperspace collisions would make sure make it pretty easy to take out unshielded planets.
     
  9. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, I was going to say that the entire ground should've been shaking after that, and have a dust storm, like in AOTC. But I guess that might be too much for a video game engine to handle. :p
     
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  10. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    That poor beautiful SSD :_|

    That Sullust video was gorgeous but Jakku, whyyyy
     
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  11. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's also a lot further away than the AOTC one. That was a 600 m sphere landing right in front of the troops. This is the equivalent of a 19 km mountain range, and it looks like it falls kilometers away and a lot slower than the sphere. That thing just dropped right down, this ship glides down to the ground.
     
  12. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Actually it was a KJA-ism (although an un-executed one). In the JAT Admiral Daala intended to ram one of her remaining ISDs into Coruscant to take out the NR-leadership, It predates the ICS-books by almost a decade.
     
  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I expect she proposed to activate her self destruct along the way.


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  14. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Why would blowing up her own ship add significantly to the explosion when it crashes into a planet while in hyperspace?
     
  15. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Coruscant gets millions of entering ships every day. I'm sure that it has done everything necessary to prevent a navicomputer error from destroying a big part of it.
     
  16. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It wouldn't be an error if they overrode it. Also, this is still ignoring the point that they were gonna crash a Star Destroyer into the world in hyperspace. They're using the power of the ship itself. If they wanted to just plant a bomb, they would have done it instead.
     
  17. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Hmm? Was the ISD going to be in hyperspace? I thought it was supposed to revert and slam into the thing?

    (man, there was a time where I'd know the name of that ISD by heart. Gorgon? Manticore? I don't remember the names of the other two, it's been super forever.)
     
  18. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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    basilisk and hydra duh

    iirc basilisk was gonna ram coruscant. hydra got ganked by han and kyp in the maw and manticore got remotely rammed by ackbar at mon calamari.
     
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  19. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Nerd!


    (I used to know that! :( )
     
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  20. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I like that the Jakku level in BF has the Republic using troop carriers from ESB/ROTJ. Not drivable in the game, of course, because DICE just wants the Empire to have ground vehicles...
     
  21. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hmm, which troop carriers?

    Also- the battle of Jakku definitely looks to be more and more massive every time I see the footage. Star Desroyers are dropping from the sky like flies. Has anyone attempted to do a count on the number of MC80's & ISD's in the sky? It appears that there are a few dozen at least. And that is just one part of the battle!

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  22. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  23. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    haha Nerd Wagon.
     
  24. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The whole hyperspace ramming always seemed odd to me. With thousands of years of this being a problem, surely some sort of gravitational device would've been developed as a cheap part of every inhabited planet's defense grids to prevent this?
     
  25. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I bet they rely on the safety-features of the hyperdrive to prevent this. That or planetary shields (which aren't always up). Also at the time Daala planned this Coruscant was still messed up from the Imperial Mutiny (DarkEmpire), so such a device - if any existed - might not have been operational.
     
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