ST The Rey Parentage Thread (with new poll; see notes on page 2447)

This is pretty much what I think, although I hope the mother is still alive and is also searching for old Jedi sites like Luke has been, and that they decided to separate for Rey's sake. I also think Lor San Tekka is from Alderaan.

I also think that either the mom or LST or both are the "People closest to Luke" that Han mentioned, because the only people that would rationally be closer to Luke than Leia and Han would be his wife and her family. And obviously somebody that was among those people was not killed in the Order 66 2.0.

 

glad most people agree with me I am glad they gave Luke a daughter I want to have a major character Jedi be a girl it's nice for a change

 

Obi-Wan could have had a non-force sensitive sibling who had a force sensitive child. And this child wasn't taken by the Jedi because they were gone. So Rey could be a grand niece to Obi-Wan.

 

I agree with this. Rey's story sounds a bit simplistic. I could imagine Kylo using a mind trick on the little girl. "You will wait here. Your family will be back. You will wait for them and never leave here until they return. They are in that ship over there. You will wait for them."

 

I think she's a Skywalker abandoned by Ben on Jakku because he couldn't bear to kill her. It does have problems as a theory (why wouldn't he recognize her?) but it also explains things that the other theories don't (why he gets so upset when he hears that a girl helped BB-8 escape, why he feels the desire to act so friendly to her when she's his prisoner) and the explanation that she was left on Jakku for her own protection by Luke or one of his allies seems unbelievable since she was left with Plett and not Tekka or literally anyone else.

If you think mind wipes are an inherently lazy storytelling device you've clearly never played KOTOR or watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

 

For now i'm electing to wait for confirmation, i'm hoping she is her own person but something tells me she will be revealed as the daughter of Skywalker...which is disappointing because with how vast the Star Wars galaxy is AND the fact that the EU has been written out of canon, I would have liked to have seen the batten passed not only to a younger generation of actor but to a whole new group of characters to lead the film outside of Skywalker and Solo.

 

I know it might be grasping at straws, but I find it odd that Obi-Wan would be calling Rey's name in her "force vision". Obi-Wan wouldn't have known Rey unless there is some sort of connection there.

 

At this point, it looks to me as though Rey is not related to Luke, and has a dark, mysterious origin. By the end of this trilogy, however, I think she will become Luke's adopted daughter and take on the Skywalker name.

 

lol how much more proof you need

 

If she isn't Luke's daughter, then she's at least connected to him in some important way. There were WAY too many hints/teases in TFA for their not to be a connection.

 

I would give ESotSM a pass in that the entire conceit of the movie is mindwipes. They're the subject of the story rather than a random plot point used to make sure a soggy plot holds together. Mind Wipes are essentially another way of bringing Amnesia into a story.

 

there is no question in my mind she is Luke's daughter one of the theories I like is her mother was force sensitive too her and Luke fell in-love during training that would explain her strong powers

 

The reason I don't think she's his daughter is because this is clearly what they want you to believe, much like they wanted us to believe Finn was the central Jedi character in all the marketing leading up to the film's release. In my opinion, they're baiting people into believing that Rey is Luke's daughter, so that when it's revealed that she isn't, it will be a shocking twist. As it is now, if it's revealed that Rey is Luke's daughter, the audience would say, "ok, cool...just what I suspected." That's boring storytelling, and they're going to want an "I am your father" level twist to parallel ESB.

My guess is she belongs to a family of super powerful dark siders and her destiny was to become some terrifying villain. Perhaps a Palpatine, who knows? That would be a major bombshell.

 

lol whatever gets you through the night

 

They were quite trixy with the marketing, but when it actually came to the film itself they revealed most of their best hidden secrets pretty quick. How long did it take to realize Rey was the Force Sensitive one? Less than an hour. And how many doubted that Kylo wasn't a Solo after his introduction? And they flat out state it by the halfway point. If they're saving up Rey's parentage for an "I am your father" moment then sure, it's going to be anticlimactic. But they had a much better opportunity to do that here and they avoided it. Because that sort of grand reveal is just a bit too predictable at this point.

If Rey is a Skywalker it'll be revealed pretty early on in the next film to give all the characters a chance to come to terms with what that means (Kylo in particular). If she's not... I think I'd find that more anticlimactic. Not because it isn't unexpected, but because we won't care. If we don't know her parents then how can their reveal mean anything? Child of a powerful darksider is a great idea, but the only one we know of is Snoke and he's clearly not related.

 

The point I was trying to make is that they wouldn't have made Rey's origins mysterious to begin with if there isn't some major twist or surprise in store. I don't see any way in which the revelation that Luke is her father would be surprising.

 

Exactly. People are falling for the "bait" way too easily.

 

The vision Rey had where she was in the rain surrounded by bodies was from when she was a child. She was taken by Luke as a padawan, identified early (maybe when she was 2 or 3). When the Knights of Ren (Kylo and the students that followed him) destroyed the new Jedi, one of them was going to kill child Rey (the one that raises his lightsaber against her in the vision) but Kylo stabbed him before he could do it because there is still light in him and despite his protests he isn't like his grandfather at all...killing children was a step too far for him (at least at that time). But he didn't want Snoke to know he left someone alive so he sold her to that junk dealer on Jakku. If you want a parallel from antiquity, think of how Joseph's brothers sold him into slavery in Egypt.

The "family" that Rey refers to is the Jedi that were destroyed. Why doesn't Kylo remember her? Because at the time she was just a kid...he probably figured that she would be either dead or somewhere else in the galaxy after 15 years. That's why he says "It IS you" in the novelisation.

 

The only flaw in this theory is why doesn't Rey recognize Kylo? Even though she was a small child, she would have remembered this young, dark-haired Snape looking guy and his helmet. Especially since she was apparently traumatized by the separation, screaming, "come back" over and over again.

 

Because he wasn't Kylo Ren at the time. In reality, he wasn't wearing the mask when he did what he did. I personally think that Rey was Ben Solo's padawan or at least he cherished her because he felt orphaned by Han and Leia the same way Rey was by her parents. The two of them definitely have a dynamic that goes beyond their on screen interactions. Add to the fact that she would have repressed such trauma (and her latent force abilities) and it's easy to explain why she doesn't remember him.

 

This is exactly why Rey is Luke's daughter. Someone from Reddit posted this. Truer words have not been written. There simply isn't going to be a Kenobi twist and Han and Leia are ruled out by TFA. Luke's Disney saying they will make star wars movies forever is my biggest confirmation Rey is a Skywalker, Luke's specifically.
Because If she is not, then the Skywalker bloodline rest in hands of Kylo Ren to produce an heir. And unless something dramatically changes with Kylo, who ATM seems headed on a path leading to death, rather than finding a love interest, then the Skywalker bloodline will come to an end w/ the death of a childless Kylo Ren and Rey is not a Skywalker.
Rey must be a Skywalker for this saga to continue to be about the Skywalkers, as she is currently the best opportunity left for the Skywalker bloodline to reproduce and continue,
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Makes sense, only problem is if Rey marries, she and the offspring would no longer have the Skywalker name (although they'd still retain the bloodline), so no matter what happens, the Skywalker name in and of itself appears to be doomed. This is why I think a potential direction for the story will be the deliberate de-emphasis of blood ties in regard to a Skywalker heir.