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ST The relationship between Finn and Rey. SEE FIRST POST WARNING

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Devizz, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. d.b.coopersurviv

    d.b.coopersurviv Jedi Youngling

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    Reproduction usually comes after a few to many drinks romance is part if courting rituals

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  2. TFAposter

    TFAposter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Ok well you admit that two characters must pair up in one way or another for a saga to exist. And usually the way this is depicted is through a romance. That's nice that you don't mind your saga generations explained offscreen with "alcohol that's it" but that definitely isn't a majority approach.
     
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  3. Darth Zane

    Darth Zane Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh yeah! I thought romance would be downplayed too. Instead we get adorableness nonstop.

    Her amazement at seeing them was no less than theirs had been when they had spotted her. Running to Finn, she threw herself into his arms. Neither could hug the other hard enough or long enough. The embracing pair finally separated, if only to look into each other’s eyes... - Chapter 16

    He smiled softly. “We came back for you.”

    She tried to find something to say to that, something worthy of the sentiment and the risk they had undertaken. She failed miserably. Chewie, however, had something of his own to add. Whatever the Wookiee had uttered caused tears to well up in her eyes...

    “What’d he say?”

    She sniffed and wiped at her face. “That it was your idea.”

    If he had been unable to find the right words with which to respond before, her reply, combined with the look she gave him, reduced him to a state of temporary aphasia.
     
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  4. MilesEdgeworth

    MilesEdgeworth Jedi Knight star 3

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    It was a relationship over the course of a week so we wouldn't be seeing them French at the end even if they were both awake.

    I tend to be fairly cynical about the romance stuff. So on re-watch I looked for the one scene that either shouldn't have been there or was there to justify either side's view of the possibility of such a relationship and while admittedly, most stuff in the movie could've been used to justify both sides of the argument, the scene that I was looking for came towards the end. Right after the duel, once the earth separates, Rey disregards Kylo, runs back to Finn, turns him over (apparently forgetting he has a back injury lol) and then lays on him crying/ listens to his heart etc. If there weren't plans for a future romance the stare down between Rey and Kylo would've been ended by the arrival of the falcon.

    I think that a lot of people saw what happened to Padme from episode one to episode three and don't want something like that to happen to Rey. I'd say not to worry about such a thing happen, because while Padme was a cool character in Phantom, she was always a supporting character whereas Rey is the main character so there's no way she'd be marginalized lik4 that. Besides, Rey is an awesome enough character that she won't be defined by her relationships one way or the other.
     
  5. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    We also got Rey admiring Poe's looks. Never did that with Finn
     
  6. MJ-100

    MJ-100 Jedi Knight star 1

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    We did;You're weren't paying attention I think.

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  7. d.b.coopersurviv

    d.b.coopersurviv Jedi Youngling

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  8. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yea why not say it in the novel, had 200+ pages and didn't
     
  9. MJ-100

    MJ-100 Jedi Knight star 1

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    alex8991 It does say it in the novel as well, but let's agree to desagree.
     
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  10. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yea didn't say she found him physically attractive. Not once showed she cared for him but whether it was romantic or not is ambiguous
     
  11. Sgt. Carver

    Sgt. Carver Jedi Master star 4

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    Lol, man the novel complements the movie, it's is not a replacement for it. You can't just conveniently dismiss what's clear visual evidence for what's in the book. You sound silly, honestly.
     
  12. TFAposter

    TFAposter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    A lot of people in this thread do...
     
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  13. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    BTW, if Rey is a Skywalker, and Finn has no last name, and they pair up...then that leaves open the possibility of future movies involving one or more Skywalkers [face_thinking]
     
  14. Blastaar

    Blastaar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oooh yeah. That series surprised me with how faithful they were to the source material. Luke and Jess were going at it like rabbits. They even kept the implied....uh.......you know.....
     
  15. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Scene was in the script too just not in the movie because Han just died and Finn is in critical condition. Would have been in bad taste but they still felt the need to write it. Why? What is its purpose? Had to have one. And no it wasn't just "hey let's have Poe and Rey meet and she finds him attractive but that will be the end of it"
     
  16. Mars457

    Mars457 Jedi Knight star 2

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    You certainly do have a large degree of insider knowledge into the intentions of the writers.

    Oh wait you don't, and all of this is pure guessing with absolutely no factual basis.
     
  17. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Nobody does but use your common sense. If JJ and Kasdan write a scene it has to have purpose. Has to add to the story. Right?
     
  18. Mars457

    Mars457 Jedi Knight star 2

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    They wrote a scene and then scrapped it before it made the final product. For all intents and purposes it does not exist. Not to mention that there is far more visual evidence that Rey might become attracted to Finn (the entirety of their interactions throughout the movie) than that she might become attracted to Poe (a single cut line from an earlier version of the script).

    Hell, even if Kasdan wants to write in a Rey/Poe relationship in parts 2 and 3 he'll have to play catchup, as they have absolutely no character interactions in this first movie.
     
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  19. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Dude it was in the final version of the script and made into the novel. It's cannon you can pretend like it doesn't exist but it does. They also wrote Rey defining the relationship as a friendship in her mind. You can't just ignore these things happened. All the interactions that point to romance prior also happened but adding the Rey/Poe meeting and Rey referring to Finn as her friend at least should make you questions whether Rey and Finns relationship may be a brother sister type relationship
     
  20. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    Because, again, some people here seem to miss the REALLY OBVIOUS fact that relationships aren't static. They change and grow over time. Rey calls him "my friend" NOW, because that's what he is RIGHT NOW!! That doesn't mean that it will ALWAYS be that way however. If this were the case, then:

    -Obi Wan and Anakin would have stayed friends for life, as opposed to what actually happened.
    -Han and Leia would have gone their entire lives barely able to stand each other, which isn't what happened.
    -Etc.
     
  21. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yup things do change but JJ and Kasdan know exactly if things will change between Rey and Finn and guess what, they wrote Rey meeting Poe and admiring his looks. Wasn't for no reason. I also lend credence to the fact they are casting a female lead and pairing her with Boyega. These things exist why they don't at least make you question where things are going is amazing to me. I get you "ship" them but that doesn't mean you have to stick your head in the sand
     
  22. Mars457

    Mars457 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Dude, the novelization was based on an early version of the script, which is why that scene does not appear in the movie. According to Pablo Hildago, in case of all differences between film and novel, it's the film, which is based on the final version of the script, which takes precedence.

    And while Rey and Finn might end up in a strictly platonic friendship, as things stand there is far more basis for a romance between the two (a movie's worth of interaction) compared to a romance between Rey and Poe (a single scene which, for all intents and purposes, does not exist).
     
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  23. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Movie wins when there is conflict. For example of Rey and Poe meet and what they say is different the movie wins. Here is where you are confused. If a scene is in the novel but not in the movie it stil happened because there isn't a conflict.
     
  24. TFAposter

    TFAposter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I already brought this up. The problem is that you are giving too much weight to that one scene. If it truly represented something of prime importance why wouldn't it be depicted in the movie?
     
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  25. alex8991

    alex8991 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Because it's not important to the overall plot doesn't mean it didn't have a purpose.