ST The relationship between Finn and Rey. SEE FIRST POST WARNING

Idk if you've watched Jessica Jones, but that's a perfect example of a strong independent woman who just so happened to have a love interest. And I think Marvel handled that perfectly.

 

I'd argue that you're the one who has gone off the deep end seeing as you've been here since day one insisting that there isn't anything romantic between them, and are just 100% convinced that there never will be despite not having any factual evidence going for you, but... I won't get sucked into the drama.

 

Yes! You just confirmed it: Sam is Finn, Frodo is Rey. Frodo kept being tempted by the Dark, Sam kept bringing him back. Frodo was hopeless without Sam. I like it, we finally see eye to eye

 

I'm 1000% for Gay Poe, but he can't have Finn, and he can't bomb this thread. It is a great 'ship name,' though. If that's a thing. I just learned 'ship' recently.

This is what happens when you label someone a 'troll', a 'racist', a 'misogynist'. Whether you think you're right or not, or even if you're absolutely right, AVOID THE TEMPTATION TO LABEL – DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT!

Disagree if you need/want to, but avoid labels… Or just move along:

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I was like, 'OK… okay… yeah… "Skywalker, yeah…" SHUT YOUR STUPID MOUTH RIGHT NOW! POE IS NOT GONNA DIE! …Yeah Okay… "Taken the leap…" Awesome.'

Just so we're clear: Poe dies, I blame YOU, Nanosoft!

 

The deep end refers to the gushing over the relationship like a 12 year old. I have given plenty of practical evidence you people just ignore it because you want them to be together. I admit the signs of a romantic relationship were there. However at the end and in the novel there are things that directly contradict those signs. Why is that so hard to admit

 

And that was love, a platonic love. I see the same here nothing wrong with that

 

I don't think Luke's gonna teach celibacy. whispers: i think he's gonna teach finn!

 

Nothing wrong indeed... except Finn and Reys chemistry and cute moments throughout the movie. Other than that I agree.

Hate to be tht guy, but I think he'll die... A sacrifice to the cause by Poe would be amazing. We get to see the guy that is always confident give it all for the resistance. That alone is a movie right there.

 

Your evidence is :

1)Disney will avoid having a white female lead fall in love with a black male lead because it's "taboo" which is basically your opinion on the matter
2)Rey likes how Poe looks(in the novel) which was cut out of the movie and calls Finn her friend,which they are since they had spent only like less than a week together and they both having a romantic relationship with him would have been ridiculously rushed.
3) Boyega had chemistry test with a few actress,most of which were in their early thirties.Said chemistry test could have been for anything and not just love interest

Those are not really hardcore evidence and based of said stuff you have been acting like it has been officially confirmed that they won't have a relationship and have stating it as a fact.

 

Oh, man, if Poe's gonna die... at least give him a cute boyfriend! Oscar deserves that much.

 

I can't see Disney killing one of the new trio. Storywise it could be great but what about the toys ?!

 

Gina Rodriguez is not in her early 30s and it's not opinion it's taboo it's fact. I work for a major toy company in the market research department. We sell Star Wars toys, trust me it's taboo. Nobody will ever admit it publicly but trust me when I say it shocking how many people it makes uncomfortable.

 

She is 31.So yeah it is considered early thirties

I never said that the subject being taboo was your opinion.You saying Disney not doing it because it's taboo is what I said is your opinion which you are stating as a fact.

 

Lol. Ya, as I've been saying: no romance, no drama.

 

Ok well wrt movies your research may be inapplicable. Focus was a financial hit (despite being panned by a lot of critics, even). Jessica Jones is a hit. Over half of millenials have dated outside their race: http://fusion.net/story/43228/more-than-half-of-millennials-have-dated-outside-their-race/

 

I said it's unlikely they will do it given they passed on doing it in this film. I would be shocked if they did it knowing how it will affect the gross box office. The film will still be profitable but it's not the safe choice, they will be sacrificing money to make a statement. It's brave and noble and in many ways the right thing to do but profit usually wins the day.

 

Vader died and toys did alright... a bit more than alright

 

"The film will still be profitable but it's not the safe choice, they will be sacrificing money to make a statement."

 

I think the rumour about the episode 8 casting chemistry tests and so forth was way before the film came out.
And considering there were 3 originally in the running for 2 lead roles, one rumour was Han Solo's daughter and then they assumed the other would be a love interest for Finn. And especially when Gugu was rumoured to have won a role people just assumed that she would be Finn's love interest due to her pigmentation.
The chemistry between Finn and Rey may have changed that, but I doubt it.
Also if the other rumours are true that Gugu didn't get the role and now Rodriguez has it, well it could still be true.
People thought they were going to get a badass Finn in this movie and most were disappointed.
Now people want a romance and are not being open minded to the possibility that there may have been hints of it in the first film,
but may not be carried over to the sequels.

 

HA! I can't even begin to tell you how many ways that survey is misleading. 1,000 people is very small, what defines different race, the demographic of the participants and where they come from all are important. I can tell you I do this all day every day. It's my job. Very simple black man white woman doesn't sell as well. Oh yea my company also produces movies too. So yea that's part of my job to.

 

Dude, movies and shows with IRs are making bank, just like movies and shows with female leads are making bank. Quibble with the surveys all you like: the green doesn't lie.
I'm well aware of statistical methods and survey research and the limitations that often come with that type of research.

We heard your explanation for why you think the Poe/Rey scene is important --- didn't hold up to scrutiny.
Now you're arguing with the reality of movies and media featuring IR making bank. \

You already admitted it would still be profitable.
It would be more profitable for Disney to have a white male lead and white female co-lead than to have a female lead and black male co-lead, too. They didn't go that route.
So they probably only care about the film being profitable. All of the filmmakers have also stated that they in fact are trying to advance a more inclusive agenda.

 

They never passed on anything.All they did was not rush a relationship.You rather have them have Finn and Rey be like those movies where people fall in love instantly even-though they barely know each other or have spent time with each other?I personally prefer a romance done well but hey,that's just me.They left it open to the possibilities.It's a 50/50 chance(probably higher than that) for them to be a couple based on this movie.


How do you know it will effect the box office that much?Your acting like their gonna lose hundreds of millions dollars because they made Finn/Rey have a relationship when it's probably gonna be just a few million.Plus your only looking at the people who will not watch the movie because of an interracial couple(which are gonna be mostly the same people who never watched the movie because Boyega was casted as a lead) and not looking at the people who will come and watch the movie because they have an interracial couple.Or are you saying there are more people who hate interracial couple than people who love them?


Everything has a negative and positive side.All your looking at is just the negative side of things and completely ignoring the positive side of it.

 

I don't think this "taboo" you speak of will really effect these films much at all. The trilogy is going to be making bank regardless.

 

Ok, first of all, Darth Philosophical – true story – I'll be reading this every day until the Blu-ray. Secondly, THANK YOU. And finally, I just wanna talk about some of these great moments!

When he asks, 'Are you ok?' HE's on the ground, and she's helping him up and he just saw her take care of herself, but he still wants to hear her say it.

I saw 'I can do this' as positive emotion, though. Like really believing in themselves, and also showing kinda how the Force works. But definitely it connects them. I also kinda thought it was something the actors may have genuinely felt, pumping them up for such a HUGE role so early in their careers.

I'd completely forgotten Finn telling her to fly low to confuse their sensors and hadn't actually noticed that Rey would not have done so otherwise. And at the end, when she sets up the shot for him, there's just so much trust. I honestly felt that was their first Force moment. She didn't know exactly where he needed to be, and he didn't know exactly what she was going to do. By the time she finished the maneuver, he had to be ready instantly. They really had to work in sync, from different parts of the ship that neither had ever been onboard before, without actually telling the other exactly what they were doing. That moment was the best climax of that kind of chase action sequence, because it had so many dramatic and narrative things going on.

I also forgot that Rey's assessment of what Finn just did tops his and is, literally, untoppable. And he's playing it cool with 'pretty good'. Great writing. And yes, they had not one but two meetcutes, and both worked marvelously. I actually wondered if it was maybe a little over-the-top for some people, but since so many viewers really didn't even pick up on it at all, I guess not. I loved how intense they were about each other! And both characters, even though this is all happening, have no idea yet. It's great!

'What about you?' Cos at that point, Finn woulda just been like, 'Oh, that's okay. I don't actually "have" to go back to the "base" "right now." I go where you go. Where you wan'go?' LOVE! I didn't notice this at all…

During the Han scene again I felt like, 'Okay. I get it already. Finn + Rey 4-EVER!' with the hugest grin I've had in a theater since I don't remember when. And I've got nothing to add to your Maz's Castle analysis. I just couldn't cut it because I just couldn't.

Had not made those connections about the Force on Starkiller. It's played for laughs, but maybe Finn isn't totally joking, even though he has no idea what he's talking about. I mean, they already made that last cannon shot with the Falcon…

The scene with Leia makes much more sense the way you explain it. I was ONLY seeing it as them sharing the loss of Han, which I thought was a little odd… Shouldn't that be Leia and Chewie? But then, Leia knows Finn was critical to the mission's success. They weren't even sure they could go until Finn volunteered. Finn caring about Rey led to the Resistance being there. And now, Finn's in critical condition. Leia already knows how much Finn cares for Rey, so when she finally meets Rey she can instantly see how deeply she cares for Finn, too. They are comforting each other. For two casualties. I wonder how this scene is handled in the novel?

Thank you again. This is the kind of ON-TOPIC I'm here for. Use the text. Talk about the movie. THANK YOU.

 

Nobody has given me a valid reason for the Rey and Poe scene. Sorry can't declare victory there pal.

Of coarse the film will still be profitable but if the gross drops from 2.5 billion to 2.0 billion for episode 8 and they do the research and realize that the reason is the Rey and Finn romance there will be hell to pay for losing 500million of straight profit.

Films with black men and white women are making bank? Which ones? Please share?