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ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sunbloom, Dec 19, 2015.

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  1. mischte

    mischte Jedi Youngling

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    Rather than my opinion, I'll just leave these here and let them speak for themselves:

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    When he looks her down and up.

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    A moment interrupted. Interesting to see how rapidly he extricates himself from her proximity when the stormtroopers show up.

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    The moment we've all been waiting for.
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    Aaaand a little bonus.
     
  2. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Gary Stu..... lol [face_laugh]

    But on a separate note, you are right...I think Kylo Ren is in for a lot more trouble and pain and confusion....but hopefully he will come of it alive and relatively unscathed....we haven't seen him interact with Leia till now and they might be saving it.... Leia spoke about sensing the good in him....am sure being force sensitive, he is still strongly connected to her but I still feel it is his interactions with Rey might be what brings him to the light (wont mind it being romantically but not necessary)
     
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  3. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thanks for posting the phantom of the opera clip....[face_dancing]love that scene.....but I have to admit the TFA scene looks so effortlessly done, I kind of like a bit better...

    And my goodness...he does look her up and down :cool: ....not to mention try to hide what he was upto from the storm troopers.. so surreptitious..... [face_devil]
     
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  4. mischte

    mischte Jedi Youngling

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    Rei of Sunshine 100% agreed. Also TFA ends with Rey arriving at the scene of her (most probable) future master, and Kylo being brought to Snoke who plans to finish Kylo's training. There we have a perfect set up for a smooth segue into the next step of their parallel journeys.

    On a separate note, an interesting snippet from a recent interview:
    "...Rey is a character that is important in this universe, not just in the context of The Force Awakens but in the entire galaxy..." Colin Trevorrow, Writer/Director for Episode IX
     
  5. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Rey might turn out to be the physical embodiment of the force itself or something that awesome... :cool:
     
  6. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    One more observation....Kylo Ren actually does have a couple of humorous remarks lines in the movie and novel.....dry sardonic humor but humor nevertheless....

    In the movie, when the first order officer informs him that the droid escaped Jakku on a freighter... he says, I quote..."The droid....stole a freighter?

    In the novel, when Kylo Ren is asking Rey in the interrogation room about the droid and she starts giving droid specifications, he tells her-
    "“I am familiar with general droid technical specifications. I don’t need to acquire one: What I want is located in its memory."

    I do hope they show more of this side of Kylo Ren.
     
  7. The Summer Lady

    The Summer Lady Jedi Knight star 1

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    JediAce1 Your turn of phrase there is interesting - say you can imagine Rey "being seduced to the dark side", but then don't link that to KR - who, for all intents and purpose is the 'face' of the darkside, and was the instigator of the most seductive scenes in the entire movie (in terms of the way he was shot, lit, made up and acted, as we've discussed extensively before). So who else is going to be doing this seducing? Snoke? From what I saw the only person who might pull Rey over to the dark side is KR, and they have already touched eachothers minds and shared deep soul-gazing moments.
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    Also, you don't want to see a "fricking love story"!! Strongly put, but fine because in terms of having Ross and Rachel in space then neither do I. What many here are seeing is a developing one sided obsession from one side, and possibly someone who could offer a path to redemption to the other.That would be a vastly more interesting storyline than a no-nonsense goodies vs baddies plot, but it you didn't pick up on the emotional undercurrent the movie was giving off I can understand how all of this would be difficult to comprehend.

    These anti Rey/KR people all seem to be very angry about our theories! Is it because they want their heroes and villains to be simple, two dimentional, and easy to understand, and deeper emotional involvement offends them in some way?
     
  8. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I hope Snoke is not doing the seduction....too horrid to think of let alone watch ......[face_sick]

    If Snoke does attempt to bring Rey to the dark side, it would probably be through dreams/ visions preying on her fears of loss and abandonment..... maybe he'll show her a chance to meet her family, or maybe compel her to choose the dark side to save the lives of her friends or the resistance? Even if she does go to the dark side, it would probably be for a noble reason.

    There are two things I hope SW never becomes---> a rom-com or a musical....like them as genres but not in SW... (now I've done it....getting images of storm troopers tap dancing...I need [face_coffee])
     
  9. rey09

    rey09 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think it's just hard for them to wrap their head around the fact that Kylo Ren, who comes off as too creepy and just plain bad, could ever possibly be with a good person like Rey. I think people forget that in the end, this is a fiction story and what may happen in Star Wars doesn't mean it's what would happen in the real world. Star Wars has a message it wants to convey and I strongly believe that redemption is a key element to that. Out of the all the scenes from the OT, Anakin Skywalker reawakening is the most powerful scene to me. But people do not want to see Kylo Ren have that because he's become too bad...which is weird because Vader was badd.
     
  10. rey09

    rey09 Jedi Knight star 2

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    His parents are both hilarious people, so I would like to think that Ben Solo picked up on their sarcastic humor.
     
  11. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Not wanting a Kylo/Rey love story, and viewing that interrogation scene as creepy as hell as opposed to sexual, does not equal opposition to the idea of Kylo being redeemed.

    I have no problem with him being redeemed, and I agree about Anakin Skywalker's redemption, I would not be a hard-core Star Wars fan without it,

    But I have a very hard time viewing this pairing as anything other than Twilight or Fifty Shades of Grey in space. People have made the complex character/strong emotional pull/"it's not that simple" arguments regarding those stories and characters as well.
     
  12. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Some just like Byronic characters, some don't....some see deep emotional undertones in scenes where others see none....there is no right or wrong in it....its all how each individual sees it... :)
     
  13. Chewies_bandolier

    Chewies_bandolier Force Ghost star 4

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    This was just released ... thought you guys might have fun with it ;)
     
  14. rey09

    rey09 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I've made this comment before somewhere in this thread before: People constantly bring up Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey. I tried reading Twilight, couldn't get much into it because it was AWFULL. I watched the 1st movie, it was hilarious. I will never read 50 shades and I have no idea what happens in it or care for it.

    It's absolutely tragic that people think of these two stories when they think about romance. It makes me despise the writers of these so much more. They are destroying a classic genre.
    I don't know if you've read more famous, authentic romance novels, but they are out there. I think that most romances these days focus on so much superficial crap. "Oh she's/he's sexy, let's hook up and never talk about feelings" or lots of stories about affairs or whatever. I mean it's everywhere. Romance means some sexy thing. No, for good romances, sexy stuff is the last thing that happens. Good romances focus on emotional connections firstly, which is what we want with Kylo and Rey. Nothing remotely superficial.

    Stories set in other time periods (and even today's time) where there are barriers to love are so much more compelling. Also, the main thing, is the writer has to be good. You can't compare say, the love story in Tolstoy's short story Family Happiness and Twilight. Honestly, it's a disgrace to even attempt to compare the two. Many of us have sighted other literary works.

    Someone said, well then Star Wars would just be a romance movie. I say they can make it work without taking away from the overarching story. It can actually be woven in, unlike Anakin and Padme, which were uh, completely forced and totally distant from the main plot! Like seriously Anakin, you're not helping Obi Wan so you can go sight seeing with a senator who seems perfectly safe... ? It doesn't need to be a huge epic romance. But something on a smaller scale but powerful can be done I think. People are always worried about Anakin/Padme redo. Please. Also, that clip posted before about them was so good. Hilarious.
     
  15. Rei of Sunshine

    Rei of Sunshine Jedi Knight star 2

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    you mean like how Sheev always likes to keep Anakin by his side? Lol creeper old guys.



    Kylo Ren and Han face off on the bridge...Kylo Ren sings Perfect... "Hey,Dad look at me... Think back and talk to me.Did I grow up according to plaaaaaan?"
     
  16. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The only classic novelist I like who has written romance is Jane Austen, and Sense and Sensibility is my least favorite of hers, so there's that.
     
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  17. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    OMG....... [face_rofl][face_rofl] that is sooooooooo funny to think about!!!!
     
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  18. Rei of Sunshine

    Rei of Sunshine Jedi Knight star 2

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    What the **** isthat weird fireball launcher/broomstick thing? And damn they're really pushing the Space Snape look XD

    And they sort of adjusted his looks a bit. He looks more 'villainy' here. Adam Driver had a softer look... I'll chalk it all up to Hasbro's toy production deciding he needs to look exactly like a bad guy...If he had any of Driver's 'pretty boy' appeal, it won't be convincing enough to kids. :D
     
  19. StarKiller81

    StarKiller81 Jedi Master star 3

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    I don't even like guys but I admit he looks kind of dreamy.
     
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  20. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    But the picture on the side is pretty nice... :cool:
    Space Snape.....rofl......my side hurts...[face_laugh].... not a fan of the space broom though.... it looks weird and almost suggestive...o_O
     
  21. Rei of Sunshine

    Rei of Sunshine Jedi Knight star 2

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    I mentioned in a post in a different thread before that since Kylo Ren was being torn apart by the Dark and the Light side, and definitely tipping towards the Dark, maybe the Force sort of like decided that it needs someone else to balance everything out since Luke is on sabbatical...

    And the Force needed to do it fast...then BOOM, awakening in Rey.... And now that Kylo Ren is stuck to the Dark Side, Rey is there to balance in the Light...

    People are thinking that Rey is a force baby like Ani... maybe she is... but maybe she's not alone... Ben basically is a force baby by blood(does that makesense?)

    Maybe the ST is about these two who would bring balance to the Force...Because clearly one person (Ani, Luke) can'thandle the burden.
     
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    rey09 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I liked Sense and Sensibility, but I can see why people wouldn't. Jane Austen's give off the feeling that there will definitely be a happy ending. They are more light hearted. I always thought Pride and Prejudice was overrated, but that's just my opinion. She also has a particular writing style. You have stories like hers, and then there's the more depressing ones like Jane Eyre, the Age of Innocence, Ethan Frome (the most depressing story I've read). House of Mirth was so boring, but written by the same person who did Age of the Innocence, which I really liked.

    Point is, there's a hugee spectrum, so ruling out romance just because of two of the worst books in history (and even classic ones we may not be feeling) should't exclude the possibility of the potential for a good romance between other characters. There are different routes they can take. We just have to hope the writers know what they are doing. They also don't want Anakin/Padme redo lol.

    And again we've stated that it will at the least be a one sided thing from Kylo, Rey most likely would not reciprocate for some reason. Or maybe she'll surprise us who knows.
     
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  23. thebee

    thebee Jedi Youngling

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    Hello, I'm new.

    Anyone else think Finn is Force sensitive?

    When Supreme Leader Snoke says "there has been an awakening, have you felt it?" I think the awakening Kylo Ren has felt is Finn's awakening. When they're on Jakku, Ren stops and looks over to Finn. Could he have felt the Force in him? It would also explain a Stormtrooper suddenly breaking rank and going rogue.

    And, when Rey runs off, Maz doesn't give the lightsaber to Han Solo to telling him to give it to her, she gives it to Finn. And, on more than one occasion, Finn is able to operate it. Apart from General Grievious, we never see a non-Force sensitive person wielding a lightsaber.

    Also, Finn and Rey's meeting was random, as random as when Anakin met Qui Gon. It was the will of the Force. The two, I think, could be related... possibly twins.

    I don't know...
     
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  24. Rei of Sunshine

    Rei of Sunshine Jedi Knight star 2

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    No really!
    Kylo Ren = Space Snape
    Luke =Space Dumbledore
    Snoke= Space Voldemort

    and Rey is basically = Space Hermione because she's just that smart!

    But we will not go into Snape/Hermione = Reylo comparisons because no...
     
  25. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I suddenly thought of a crazy plot... I mean, if they really want to throw a curve ball at the audience....I dont think it will ever happen but here goes.... what if Rey (the light side of the force) and Kylo Ren (the dark side of the force) fall in love and have a child? Then they travel back in time and hand this child to Shmi Skywalker.... and the child is none other than... dun dun dun...... Annakin Skywalker....thus setting off the whole previous chain of events... :cool::D
     
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