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ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sunbloom, Dec 19, 2015.

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  1. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    The problem with this is that it would make me a Harry/Draco shipper and...no. Just no.


    Right, and feelings can never, ever change over time.
    Sarcasm aside - they don't actually despise one another. Rey certainly may hate Kylo for now, but what makes you think that he hates her?


    I certainly think so, but I'm surprised to hear you say that. You've done quite a bit of pontification here, especially in your earlier posts.
     
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  2. Marshall132

    Marshall132 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I wonder, What If Finn or Rey Kills Kylo Ren in the next movie? What would you guys do?
     
  3. ReyKenobi

    ReyKenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    I'd be questioning the writers because that really wouldn't be a good move :/ Like, shipping and everything aside, Kylo Ren shouldn't be killed off in the next film. What a waste and what a disappointment.
     
  4. Mana

    Mana Jedi Master star 3

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    I dunno.....cry, maybe?
     
  5. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    Tear our hair out and cry bitter tears of frustrated fetishism, Marshall132. Is that what you expect we'll do? :p
    But seriously, how likely is that to happen? XD
     
  6. thescavenger

    thescavenger Jedi Knight star 2

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    I just wanted to say that I've been lurking on this board since forever, and recently I saw this thread in its very early days, not thinking it would become this big. I've also been excited by how this thread has discussed the possibility of "Reylo" in depth, going beyond the surface level Tumblr feed (that seems to be everywhere).

    What I would like to know is how the ship has gotten such a huge following, if there wasn't a slight direction in the movie that could lead this many people to believe there is some sort of tension between Kylo Ren and Rey?
     
  7. Marshall132

    Marshall132 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Everyone who has seen the script has said it's weird and considerably darker than the last movie. So I think everyone but Snoke and the Finn and Rey are up in the air in what the hell is going to happen to them in the next movie. I could see Kylo Killing his mother and being killed in return by Finn/Poe/Rey near the end of the movie before Snoke reveals himself and the Rest of the knights of Ren. Just some things I've thought of.
     
  8. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    ReyKenobi : Yes, and you all are making arguments saying that you do like it. The difference in objectivity is...?

    rowan_greenleaf : The "pontification" came about regarding posts about how tying someone to a chair is not really a bad thing, for example.
     
  9. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    Can you think of anything weirder than Kylo/Rey, from the perspective of the mainstream Star Wars fans? I dunno; if anything that qualifier is more likely to float our ship more than it would yours. *cackles*

    I'm only teasing. Nobody knows what will happen, and killing Kylo in episode VIII would certainly be a shocker. It would be too much of a waste, though. Hopefully even you, staunchest of FinnReyers, can agree on that.
     
  10. AdamDemamp

    AdamDemamp Jedi Knight star 3

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    She has the last piece of the map to Luke Skywalker. I'm sorry but if you had the winning ticket to the billion and a half power ball you won't crumple it up into a ball and shove it in your pocket. This is arguably a bigger find for Kylo.
     
  11. ReyKenobi

    ReyKenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    anakinfansince1983
    I haven't quite to the degree that you are since most of my factual posts are backed up by scenes from the films or lines from the script.

    But I'll leave it at that.
     
  12. moonjump05

    moonjump05 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And Poe had where the map was hidden, but he got manhandled by stormies, tortured for a while and then mind probed.
     
  13. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Interpretations of those scenes are also subjective. Other viewers/readers are not required to draw the same conclusions that you do (I don't), and their conclusions are just as valid.

    Example: I am not drawing any romantic conclusions from him carrying her onto the ship. Only the conclusion that he wanted her on the ship as his prisoner and she was unconscious so he could not make her walk there.
     
  14. Force22

    Force22 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I was thinking that as well. If they are related, Disney has some explaining to do.
     
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  15. Force22

    Force22 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Okay, both watch the girl while she's asleep/unconscious, I'll give you that.

    As to the rest, it looks like in Twilight Bella develops an unhealthy relationship and starts making poor choices due to her attachment to the sparkly vampire. We haven't seen anything that indicates that would be the case with Rey, and it would be a poor plot if that was the case with Rey. And yes, Bella is a good student, but she is defenceless near vampires (understandably). Bella and the vampire are not equals in terms of power, and she needs other people to defend her (which kind of makes sense in the case). Other than that, I know she gets in a dangerous situation just because she wonders around and gets lost. Rey on the other hand does not need help, so the situation is very different.

    I don't think we can just group all the "mysterious dark brooding figures" under one category and assume there's only one kind of possible plot. Most movies have at least one romantic arc and they can be very different. Sometimes, even similar plots can be either good or bad depending on execution. So far, nothing is really similar between Twilight and a possible love arc between Kylo and Rey.
     
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  16. Pliolite

    Pliolite Jedi Master star 3

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    Just how far could a potential love moment between Rey and Kylo go in VIII? In terms of what Rian would be allowed to show...? We have had kissing in past movies, but let's face it, nothing too full-on. The most passionate anything has ever got is Anakin stroking Padme's back in AOTC...xD though tbh I see more potential for chemistry with Reylo and some real fireworks possible if they indeed get closer...

    We also saw Anakin and Padme in bed in ROTS, but this is after they are married. How would people feel about Reylo ending up in bed together? Is that something right for the movies or best left to fics?? and could a real love story be played out in the trilogy? Previous love stories in the saga have not been much to write home about...:p
     
  17. Force22

    Force22 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If anything happens between Rey and Kylo, I think it wouldn't be in the next movie, unless it was some vision.
     
  18. Ann Louise

    Ann Louise Jedi Master star 2

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    Yup. Cry a lot.:_|
     
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  19. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    Rei of Sunshine: While I agree with your post on Ben and Rey from a few pages ago, there is one thing that I want to contend.

    There's is a lot to do with him in regard to his history, some of which is explored in the comics and the jr. novels out there. I've mentioned before that he was raised on Yarvin 4, so he knows about Jedi temples, his mom planted a force tree next to the house, so there's that. His parents have direct ties to Leia, Luke and Han, so it's more then likely he knew Ben Solo when he was young. On top of that you have the fact that he and the Republic have had issues in the past. One of his squad mates was killed when the four of them went to deal with supposed pirates attacking a freighter, only to find FO tie fighters there, who ended up killing one of his friends from the Academy. He was helped by Naka in the cut scene, which actually ties into another character at Maz's castle with the droid calling in to the resistance as Naka's cousin is there. He may have an enemy in two forms, first being a FO Sympathizing Senator Eurado Ro-Kiintor, who was taking cash from the FO and setting up things so that they could steal tech from the Republic. Earlier when Poe's friend got killed he tried to report it, but the Republic covered it up. Then later Poe stole from the Senator a Navicomputer, and now he knows who's behind it. Then you have the Irving Bros who took Han's falcon, the issue here is that Poe pretended to be working for them when he and his team robbed the Senator, who probably figured that it wasn't one of them who stole it and that lead to the stealing of the Falcon, which lead to it ending up on Jakku. Also there's this little gem

    It's because of Poe feeling angry and worried and fearful that Leia sent him out to find Luke. Poe's actions to Leia, literally initiated the whole thing of The Force awakens. If he had not talked to her about it, she wouldn't have finally decided to hunt down Luke, which would mean that Rey wouldn't have met Finn, or Ben Solo, and we would have had a very different movie. Given also now that the Republic will be blaming the Resistance for the issues that they are now facing, I'd say we will have to worry about him too.
     
  20. thescavenger

    thescavenger Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think if this should happen, it would be very subtle. Maybe more obvious than the interrogation scene (lol), but not too far. Because I think if the passionate scenes are to happen too quickly, it just seems like it is dark temptation. The slow progress would make more sense as the characters could gravitate towards each other (Rey understanding Kylo/the Dark side, and Kylo to the light). With that being said, if it should happen, they would probably only kiss by the end of the trilogy. If they were to have some sort of romantic plot, I think it will have to do with the mental more than the physical.
     
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  21. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    anakinfansince1983, no no, if you really want a book to Seppaku to, try reading Madam Boverie some time. If you try to read it it's rediculous, the guy goes on and on for paragraphs about a chair. It's designed to show that romantics are stupid because the author is a realist, but man, I'll take House of Mirth over this tripe any day of the week and then some.

    Kylo no, not a Darcy, Ben Solo, could be prior to turning and probably when reformed. He strikes me as the sort that would have that situation upon him given his mom's politics right now and how screwed up the Republic is.
     
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  22. ReynRen

    ReynRen Jedi Padawan

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    Watch this and tell me what you think!!! I think his thoughts on this scene is perfect!!!!

     
  23. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't like opera anyway, but the fact that the psycho lead in Fatal Attraction is obsessed with Madame Bovary is enough to make me stay the hell away from it.
     
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  24. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    True enough, I mean right now one of the biggest series via drama had the first four seasons being about two cousins who were in love with each other, hated each other for a long while, realized they were in love, got married and had a baby, and then sadly the actor decided he wanted to be on a different show so they killed him.

    I'm probably one of the few that would be fine with them being cousins and in a relationship, but then again I tend to read a lot of English Lit and they seem far more willing about that then here in America.
     
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  25. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    Two things about him being in her head, it might have happened, or they may have changed it to Luke as it says she calms herself vs. the crazy aspect she was in when she was shooting him earlier. I think it could be that she was working with the light for when she managed to get Ben down, then Snoke popped in ala Sidious with "Kill him," and she, like Luke, rejected it and the break happened causing her to run to Finn. So Snoke probably wants to use Ben to get to her now. He's become the bait.
     
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