ST The case for why Rey in 'Star Wars' is actually Obi-Wan Kenobi's granddaughter

Yesterday I watched Force awakens for the second time. I had heard the arguments behind Rey being a Kenobi. I didn't think they held much water. However one scene in the movie sold me on it when I never thought I would buy into it. After Satine's death I really didn't picture Obi-wan falling in love again. I have posted a picture below of someone's rendition of the scene in question along with a similar scene from the "Revenge of the Sith." Here's my reasons

1. All of the reasons that everybody has already said. I think we've all read them. If not read this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-ostrower/rey-is-obi-wan-kenobis-granddaughter_b_8911656.html

2. Rey just doesn't have the temperament of a Skywalker. She has Obi-Wan's serenity. Skywalkers are all brash and impulsive. Even Leia. They also get that from their mother. They have a hard time distancing themselves from their emotions. Its not to say that Obi-wan never acted on his feelings and emotions. However when it came to it he could separate himself from them to get the job done. Even after Satine Kyrze was killed he pulled himself together in a short space of time. Rey was able to do the same thing. When Ben Skywalker-solo was interrogating her she was able to calm herself down in order to push him out of her head. then when she used the jedi mind trick she calmed herself then as well. Then finally in her duel with Ben (Skywalker)Solo she calmed herself enough to make her first conscience connection with the force and let go of her fear and emotions.

3. The Duel: In my opinion the duel between Ben (Skywalker)Solo and Rey "Kenobi" is the pinnacle of the entire movie. In Many ways it mirrors the duel between Anakin and Kenobi on Mustafar. Both dueling pairs even gripped each other's saber wrist, like in the picture below. Both duels took place on Seismically unstable planets. In both duels the Kenobi's held back and really only struck when provoked. In both instances the Kenobi's injured the Skywalker's with their light saber. However it is different in some ways including the fact that the Kenobi this time is a woman. To show the differences the setting is completely different. Anakin and Obi-Wan were surrounded by Lava while Ben and Rey were surrounded by snow..

This is only a theory but I think I'm right. All of the previously mentioned things in my opinion aren't as important as the reasons I've listed here. They are the side dishes while these reasons are the main course.

 

I assume this will get locked, but I don't think it should. Let the users "free market" theory of posting let the best posts rise! I think this is a nice post and brings up some interesting issues.

 

You're forgetting the one thing that would prove this theory true.


Obi Wan would have to have a son or daughter for Rey to be a Kenobi.


Theory disproved.

 

Why is it disproved? I think even Lucas once said Jedi were not required to be celibate, and besides, the Jedi Order was destroyed. Who knows what Obi-wan did in the desert while honing his "more powerful than you can imagine" skills. Like maybe, learning so much about the force he could even use the midichlorians to...create...life?

 

We don't know that Obi-Wan didn't have any children. I also didn't say that Rey is his granddaughter. She might be a niece. Obi-Wan fell in love once with Duchess Satine Kyrze and was even willing to leave the Jedi Order to marry her. In Star Wars Rebels he states in the Holocron that the Jedi Order has fallen. Technically he wasn't a Jedi anymore. Maybe he had a relationship with someone in that 30 year time frame in order to have a child. And maybe Rey is a niece. All I'm saying is that I think Rey is a Kenobi.

 

i don't think grappling is hereditary...

 

These are great points but there is another thread on this exact theory:
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/...s-granddaughter.50037347/page-4#post-53099782

 

I've seen almost every canonical lightsaber duel with the exception of the 2nd season of Star Wars-Rebels. The only other time two light saber combatants gripped each other's saber wrists was in "Revenge of the Sith" in the duel between Anakin and Kenobi. J.J. Abrams is an Artist. The next time you watch the "Force Awakens" watch the Duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan before you go see and and keep it in mind when you watch this latest duel. Its not hereditary--its symbolic.

 

Thread merge

 

It would have been irresponsible of Obi-wan to NOT go forth and procreate. The Jedi order has been wiped out and there is only one* [him] Jedi to go out into the galaxy to identify infants to be trained in the force....yeah, no, he had to stay close to Luke so I guess banging around Chalmun's cantina is his best option.
I'm highly entertained by the folks who follow the notion that Luke and Ben having kids goes against the Jedi code. Ben is able to interpret anything as long as he keeps at least half of a truth and I would assume that Luke, being the last or if you prefer, the first of a new Jedi order, had the option to rewrite/ignore/be completely unaware of any "code".
Also, accents aren't genetic? Sure on our planet that's true but in the Star Wars galaxy they are; ask any clone trooper.

*I suppose Yoda could do that too but he turned his ship into a house and Obi-wan went to a habitable planet with an important spaceport etc.

 

Couldn't she simply be part of the Kenobi extended family? You know, like Obi-Wan's grand niece, or something.

I doubt it, but it's not impossible.

 

It's actually been revealed what we know as the "English Accent" in Star Wars is a Courescant/Inner System accent. Which explains why someone like Leia would have a bit of one in ANH when she was still a senator- much like the people who move south/north and either gain or lose an accent. This does suggest that Rey has some sort of important/inner-world parents, considering John Boyega has a British Accent himself, but did an American one for his portrayal of Finn.

 

Yep. These are extensions of things that I listed. Fire and Ice. For those of you that follow the Star Wars Ring Theory, Mike Klimo talks about how Revenge of The Sith is a reflection of A New Hope. It is essentially Episode IV in reverse. So, I find it quite fitting that The Force Awakens echoes both films.

Nothing is disproved. There’s plenty of room in the narrative for Obi-Wan to have had offspring.

Star Wars is in many ways, modeled after the sagas of old. It's an artistic choice meant to portray an echo. It's part of a larger motif meant to show these new characters claiming their birthright. How very Star Wars!

I'm not sure they're getting that technical with the accents. For Boyega, I think they thought it as far as "Stormtroopers have American accents!"
As for Rey, I still think it was an artistic choice, so that if and when she is revealed to be Obi-Wan's descendant, we will easily associate her as a Kenobi.

 

Hmm I took that Maz quote 'who's the girl' to mean more that Maz could sense something about her. Perhaps Maz could already tell she was strong with the force. I didn't take it that Maz or Han knew who Rey was.


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I'm know it's been talked about here, but I saw this gifset and thought it was great to really see these two moments in action.

 

They're missing something really obvious.

Luke: You fought in the Clone Wars? ​

Obi-Wan: Yes. I was once a Jedi knight, the same as your father. ​

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Was once a Jedi. Past tense. Not calling oneself a Jedi implies that one isn't beholden to the Jedi code.


Then there's the state of things in Revenge of the Sith. He's not going to worry about "getting expelled from the Jedi Order" as he warned Anakin as there's no Jedi Order from which to be expelled. Their code burned along with their temple. The only mission Obi-Wan had left was to watch over Luke and train himself to preserve his identity in the Force. I'm skeptical that Obi-Wan would be so pious that he'd walk away from a relationship with someone.

 

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Exactly, no more Jedi order no more Jedi code.

 

I'm predicting that Obi wan had a daughter who joined the empire's army (voluntarily or not)....and she had a daughter who she abandoned in Jakku (Rey)....and now we know her as Capt. Phasma of the FO....

 

Just saw TFA for the second time and I'm definitely leaning towards Obi-Wan's granddaughter, mostly because of his voice in Rey's vision.

If Obi-Wan no longer considered himself a Jedi Knight after RotS, then I can imagine him fathering a child. Maybe the rumored Obi-Wan film could get into this story.

 

What was the focal point of TFA? I think everyone will agree Han's death was the thing we'll all remember from it. Who's back story movie is first up? Han's. So, if Obi-wan is revealed to be the father, grandfather, whatever of Rey, that would probably be the highlight of VIII. Whose back story is next after Han's? Obi-wan's. Maybe it's following a pattern.

 

That would explain why we see the Mandalorian symbol when they enter Maz Kanata's castle: (it might be a subtle clue)

 

Rey Tarkin

 

Should Obi Wan turn out to be Rey's grandfather, are people leaning to towards his child (Rey's parent) to be male or female? Because I've seen the Kenobi-Skywalker theorists hoping it's a girl, so she has the baby with Luke. But if it's a girl, then Rey would not technically be a Kenobi. I've seen fewer theories which presume Obi Wan's child as a boy. So what are people thinking?

 

This could be another clue - "Ben" Solo.
Gonna throw out a theory.

Vader ROTJ - "Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete"

Ben being a Solo Leia's son.
Then the old theory that Hux is Luke's son.

Two Skywalker descendants gone bad.

Rey could be Kenobi decent.

She will redeem Obi-Wan and turn the SKywalkers back to the light

 

Literally the only clue that makes any sense in that original article is that Kenobi's voice(s) is heard in the flashback.
"wearing similar clothes" - yeah, they're both on a desert planet.
"sneaking around on enemy base" - being at slightly similar looking places at any point of their lives is a clue they're related?
"accent" - Rey has lived most of her life on Jakku. Any accent she had before that would be long gone.
"no other reference to Kenobi except Ben" - because he's been dead for 40 years and none of the good guys are knowingly force sensitive for most of the movie. Luke is just a legend, Kenobi could be forgotten.

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