ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

can i just say that if benicio del toro carries on with the same badass streak from sicario, this will be a great ride??!!

 

Interesting...

Spoiler: Rebels Speculation

Ezra is definitely has and is going to be pulled by the dark side. He is also going to visit a Sith temple and meet Darth Maul. He also holds a green bladed version of Kylo's lightsaber and Sith holocron.

Ezra has also been described as very important to the SW universe, with many commenting on his last name-Bridger. Now, this was thought that he would bridge the PT and the OT, but what if this extends to the ST as well?

Edit: Bridger would also play into Rey's possible fate- a bridge between the light and the dark.

He would be Luke and Leia's age, so if either one of them could be Rey's parent, he could. Ezra has also met Leia at this point.

I will be watching Rebels closely

 

I'm team Rey Skywalker so a big NO for me. But even if they're not related, the circumstances are far to extreme for them to develop a romantic relationship in the span of 2 films. I can't believe I'm saying this but if they do fall for each other, it'd be AFTER Kylo's redeemed (if he even will).

 

what really terrifies me is how snoke's training is going to pan out.

it's not like he's been particularly attentive to his student so far, so i wonder what it is that he can possibly teach him. emotional regulation? is that an advance dark side skill?

i know everyone expects kylo ren to be more 'badass' in the next film but i can only suspect this will mean more psychotic to be honest. he's already able to do many things force-wise, what he really needs is to be grounded in some kind of reality.

 

If Rey were Palpatine's granddaughter, Geraldine James might be playing an Ysanne Isard type of character. She has the right look for that part and the right age to be Rey's grandmother rather than her mother: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ysanne_Isard

Geraldine also looks a lot like Domhnall Gleeson. Perhaps she's Rey's grandmother, and Hux is Rey's uncle I bet nobody would see THAT coming. And when Rey's space Nazi relatives find her, they want to put her on the imperial throne to make themselves the most powerful family in the galaxy. They might tempt her with the idea of ending the war and bringing peace to the universe.

Preposterous as it sounds, you have to admit having Palpatine for a grandfather and the rest of your family space Nazis would be the family baggage to end all family baggages.

 

Ohh... that would be hilarious. Two years spent glorifying and anticipating this powerful, evil villain, and then when at last we learn the truth...

Ezra Bridger.

Yes, I imagine I would essentially ragequit Star Wars, but even as I did it, another part of me would be laughing.

 

Yeah the rape thing just really boggles me. When I was watching the scene, that thought never entered my mind. I can only remember seeing one rape scene on tv, and I was screaming at the screen!! I was like please someone come and stop this!! Don't let this happen to her!!

Kylo Ren is a bad guy, he will do bad things to everyone in general. And there's no denying he was more calm around her than with Poe. Honestly, I am far far more disturbed by the Leia bikini scene than the interrogation scene.

 

If they are cousins, I would be very disappointed as the story would take a very predictable turn of events. I mean, no offense to the cousin relationship, but it doesn't make for a particularly interesting dynamic. It also reduces Kylo's character in my mind to some pathetic and tragic fallen figure in comparison to Rey and just someone she needs to dispose of so she can assume the mantle and inheritance.

So that said, if they are related, that would cement it to me that an interesting dynamic between them is definitely NOT happening. I'm also not into incest so I'll move on... However, the story is just going to be Rey defeating him (or him dying for his mom or something) and Rey taking her place as the sole Skywalker who will carry on the legacy. I suppose they could force a romance between her and Finn (I say force because now they come off like brother and sister) and we can call it a day.

Also I see talk in other threads that the general public is in love w/Rey, Finn and Poe, but not Kylo. That is news to me (that people don't like Kylo). I don't see that. A lot of the people I know found him intriguing and want to know more about him and the Knights of Ren etc. many just don't see a potential for romance because everyone believes she's a Skywalker and he's a villian who does bad things. Bedsides, why is it a shock that people like Rey, Finn and Poe? We're supposed to like them, I know I do. I just don't like the assumption that 'somebody at Disney' thought everyone would love Kylo and now they don't because they love Rey, Finn and Poe. I mean, it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. we can like all of them.

 

I absolutely love Qui-Gon Jinn. He did his own thing and didn't blindly follow the Jedi counsel so there's a fair possibility he would father a child. Although deep down, I feel the idea may be too far-fetched... I would love it though.

 

Yeah, no way it's going to happen, but a man can wish. It's more likely she's a Kenobi, but even that is a stretch, I think.

 

Qui-Gon was the best character in TPM but also the most unnecessary and contradictory character in the film. He and Obi-wan really should have been merged to form a new character, called Obi-wan Kenobi

 

Qui-Gon was a good contrast to Obi-Wan. Qui-Gon was more of a rebel, where Obi-Wan was more of a "by the book" Jedi. Granted, Obi-Wan did adopt some of Qui-Gon's more rebellious tendencies as he got older, but he still was more by the book. In Qui-Gon we see a possibility lost: Qui-Gon was the perfect master for someone like Anakin, but he lost out on that.

 

Which thread?

 

In the FinnxRey thread there was some discussion (initially related to the lack of Rey toys) that Disney thought Kylo would be the popular one and there was a lot of marketing behind that, but it turned out Rey, Finn and Poe were supposedly more popular.

Edit: maybe it was the 'shipping debate' thread...I can't keep up... What I didn't like about it was that I thought the whole issue was there were so few Rey toys and that was the problem, not that Kylo isn't popular.

 

Phew, you scared the hell out of me cuz i really like Ben & Reylo Anyway, I saw some people discussed about Star Wars toy sale a few days ago in this thread

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/casting-for-new-female-lead-episode-viii.50033300/

• Look at Amazon.com. Rey, Kylo, Phasma, and the First Order trooper cannot be purchased directly from Amazon (i.e., from an Amazon warehouse and delivered via Prime); they're sold out. You can only get them from third party sellers. Those folks are selling those figures for between $23-48(base prices should be around $21). You can, however, pick up Finn directly from Amazon. And he's a steal at $16 (down from $21).
  
  You cannot even find Rey on Walmart.com. But, while you can get Poe, the First Order Trooper, and the Guvian Enforcer for 19.99, Finn is discounted at $18.92. Chewie retails for $22.

• on Amazon, you still can't buy Rey, Kylo, or the First Order Trooper directly from Amazon. You have to pay a premium from third-party sellers. You can get Finn though and he's down another dollar to $15.
• on walmart.com, Poe and the First Order Trooper are now 21.99, the Guvian Enforcer is $17.99, and Finn is now 3 dollars cheaper at $15.99.

Simple supply and demand. If Finn is the hot toy that's a sure-fire sale, you don't discount him down from $21 to $15. Other figures are selling at full retail or at $18. Finn is the cheapest of the TFA figures. They've lowered his price to move the figures, since they wouldn't move at the higher price point.

 

I saw a couple of articles about this...but I think this is all speculation.... though it is true that they haven't released enough Rey and Phasma toys (ans there is a huge demand for them), I thought the Kylo merchandise was doing well....I had to wait almost a week and a half to get a Kylo action figure because they sold out....I think it is just a subtle smear campaign of sorts...

When I went looking for the action figure, the only figures that were available in plenty of Chewie, Finn and Stormtroopers....I literally had to pre-book the kylo ren...

 

Lol I was scared too and try to login forum just to ask the same question

 

I'm sorry guys, I didn't mean to scare anyone! I didn't have the time to dig up the posts, etc. I was referring to, but the whole issue was that I was pointing out that any implication that Kylo (the toys and the character) is not popular (for whatever reason) was completely inaccurate in my experience.

 

on the sites i rea, rey, is just regarded as a victim as sexism in the toys industry, in line with many other toy action figures from other franchises that seemingly miss a female lead action figure(so much as actually photoshopping a female actress out of ie bed linen etc)

 

I think the main difference between Kylo and Rey in regards of beig screwed up, is that he knew he could use the Force since he was a kid and it pretty much complicated his life as I guess it would have complicated Rey's life, had she deduced the same thing at a tender age. While Rey could have a kinda normal life, Kylo had to struggle with the Force and its dangers at an age where kids should just be playing and studing at school, if such things exist in the SW universe.

 

I read a comment on the "stages of Reylo" that dubbed the forest fight between Kylo and Rey "the lightsaber duel of sexual awkening". Pretty accurate, I'd say.

 

For me the sexual undertones don't come from Kylo reading her mind, but from the way he stares at her, his kind manners, the way Kylo approaches her while looking at her face with lust, his willingness to uncover his face for her. It's the way he speaks and moves around her that give a sexual vibe.

 

I agree. Maybe I'm wrong but from all the SW movies, this is the first time I read "mind rape" to the fact of reading the mind of another person and quite a bunch of villains have read minds throughout SW movies.

 

And let's not forget that 3 Jedi (Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Mace Windu) invaded the mind of bounty hunter, Cad Bane. And it was quite an unpleasant experience for Bane, as you can see him writhing in pain. And instead of just toying around and trying to grab information, they're actually trying to force him to do something against his will, which IMO is worse than just getting information from someone. And yet these three Jedi, two of whom were masters that never turned to the dark side, were able to do this and remain on the light side, and yet what Kylo did to Rey is somehow proof that he cannot be redeemed? I don't see the logic in that.

 

The problem is articles like this: http://www.hitfix.com/harpy/why-on-...-think-kids-would-relate-to-kylo-ren-over-rey

They have an alleged insider claiming:

“I’ve spoken with Disney people, and they were completely blindsided by the reaction to the new Star Wars characters […]They put a huge investment into marketing and merchandizing the Kylo Ren character. They presumed he would be the big breakout role from the film. They were completely surprised when it was Rey everyone identified with and wanted to see more of. Now they’re stuck with vast amounts of Kylo Ren product that is not moving, and a tidal wave of complaints about a lack of Rey items.”

This is not true. Also, yes the lack of action figures with female characters is a problem, but Rey was also due to spoilers, her toys were held back. (Cause geez, who could have guessed that the desert dwelling protagonist would be the Jedi?) These are blowing things out of proportion. They are making things up, with unconfirmed sources.

I was slightly worried when I read articles like this, because it seems like they wanted to make a big deal out of Kylo and he was a disappointment. But that's not what I see. People love or love to hate Kylo Ren. And the toys are selling. And still, it's quite surprising that the Kylo Ren toys are selling well. Can you imagine a father buying his son a Kylo Ren figure? Kylo Ren bedsheets? I don't know, I think the child has to insist...