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Discussion in 'Archive: Disney Era Films' started by Twain, Jan 9, 2016.

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  1. Twain

    Twain Jedi Master star 3

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    What would people think about an Anthology film that focused on the Imperial Royal guards? With their blood red designs, the royal guards are already iconic figures in the SW universe and it would be easily marketable.

    The story would explore how one or a group of Palpatine's elite royal guards come to be in their position and how they enforce the Empire's rule throughout the galaxy. Perhaps one defects or challenges the Empire and Palpatine himself and becomes a tragic hero.

    What say you about this concept?

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  2. Leoluca Randisi

    Leoluca Randisi Force Ghost star 6

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    sounds cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  3. Sarge

    Sarge 7x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    And when his former comrades-in-arms catch up to him, they yell, "TR-8R!!!"
     
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  4. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    Done completely from their point of view. They are loyally defending the honor of the Emperor from the traitorous Rebellion. Sure.

    It has Clone Wars overtones.
     
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  5. Twain

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    Right. Depict the perspective of their secretive elite order. Show their training and demonstrate them in action...either defending the Emperor or executing a high level mission of the upmost importance. Kicking rebel butt.

    But then have the protagonist turn for whatever moral or circumstantial reason and take the story from there...
     
  6. Dameron

    Dameron Jedi Master star 4

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    How about the red guards who got KOd by Yoda go on a galaxy-spanning quest to find him? They catch up with him repeatedly, but each time, he just clonks their heads again and bounces away like a ping-pong ball —"Eheheheh!"

    They grow old and feeble along the way, their minds slipping due to acute CTE. Finally, they catch up to him one last time, on Dagobah, right before the battle of Hoth. The aging Jedi master must use the last of his strength to clonk their heads together one last time, ensuring his own imminent death....
     
  7. Lt. Hija

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  8. Avnar

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    Brilliant - love the idea. Hire this man!
     
  9. Twain

    Twain Jedi Master star 3

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    Thanks Avnar! I'd be glad to take calls from LFL haha ;)

    But really one of the reasons this appeals to me is because with the Anthologies, despite the incredible abundance of awesome aspects within the GFFA, I sometimes have difficulty crafting stories that would be worthy of a feature film that would appeal to general audiences and benefit the larger franchise. Some of the ideas floating around would be perfect for the fanbase but would be lost on the regular population.

    I think a well executed story with Palpatine's royal guards could work with both.
     
  10. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    They make an appearance in Rogue One.
     
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  11. Twain

    Twain Jedi Master star 3

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    ^ Is that official?

    If so, that's good news....
     
  12. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    One of the extras has his part down as 'Imperial Guard'.
     
  13. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    CrazyOldJedi wrote

    One of the extras has his part down as 'Imperial Guard'.

    "Imperial Guard" is not synonymous with "Emperor's Guard".

    The "Imperial Guard Corps" (original John Mollo designation) features the black Imperial guards with the Samurai helmets, erroneously and constantly referred to as "Naval Fleet Troopers" by EU sources. [face_tired]
     
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  14. CrazyOldJedi

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    I don't think that it is relevant really. If the guy said he was playing an "Imperial Guard" then he will have donned the red armour.
     
  15. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    CrazyOldJedi wrote

    If the guy said he was playing an "Imperial Guard" then he will have donned the red armour.

    Why? I dare to say that for anyone with average Star Wars experience the OT establishes rather well, that the black Samurai-helmeted guys are the actual "Imperial Guards" as - well - that's what they do in all the three films, i.e. guard things.

    Unless the actor refers to "red guards", "royal guards" (Emperor is a title) or "Emperor's guards" we are looking at an alternate possibility.
     
  16. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I'd love to see a pike duel between a Royal Guard and a ROTS-style Senate Guard.

    Perhaps they should also involve the Sun Guard, a group of mercenaries who (in Legends) served as guards for Plagueis and later became the first Royal Guards: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_Guard

    Also of interest is that according to the canon novel, "Lords of the Sith," some of the Royal Guards were clones.
     
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  17. CrazyOldJedi

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    Google "star wars Imperial Guards" or just search "Imperial Guard" on starwars.com . Your 'assumption' is way off.
     
  18. Lt. Hija

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    CrazyOldJedi wrote

    Google "star wars Imperial Guards" or just search "Imperial Guard" on starwars.com . Your 'assumption' is way off.

    Who is assuming? Just because this erroneous nomenclature created by West End Games has perverted fact into myth and given raise to a popular assumption adopted by individuals at Lucasfilm that up to this day (!) have been unable to get the proportions of the Imperial insignia correct as shown in the OT still doesn't change the fact, that the black samurai-helmeted Imperials are "Imperial Guards".

    The costume designer and the original novelizations say so and we constantly see the black samurai-helmeted guys in the actual films in their capacity as security guards and quite obviously never as "naval" "fleet troopers".

    I for one prefer to accept the designs and functions of the military personnel in the OT as it was intended by the people actually involved in the OT production and not by a bunch of role playing game designers that had little or no knowledge about these original intentions and designs and didn't care about research.

    If you want to carry on believing these are "naval fleet troopers" (just as Princess Leia's defenders) please do so by all means, but don't expect others like me to share a belief which is not compatible with the actual onscreen information and the original intentions.
     
  19. ImpreciseStormtrooper

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    That would be awesome.

    And when they're done and the lights go off some of those useless IG-100 MagnaGuards can come out from nooks in the wall and do some dusting to clean up the mess.
     
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  20. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    You're taking this all way too seriously.
     
  21. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    CrazyOldJedi

    Maybe, but I prefer to respect the original creative decisions and intentions and to believe what I can see in the actual films and read in the original reference books, rather than what some folks came up with that apparently didn't even have a VCR to verify their "findings".
     
  22. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    "Naval Fleet Troopers" = their position in the military heirarchy

    "Imperial Guard" = their job
     
  23. Lt. Hija

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    darklordoftech

    Considering the fact that we never saw this conjectural West End Games "Naval Fleet Trooper" participate in any naval action, I say there had always and already been a "naval fleet trooper" / Imperial marine from the very beginning: the stormtrooper

    I never understood why WEG thought there was any need for a second guess (other than their ignorance).

    And at best, considering the Imperial guards participated in the defense of their planet based shield generator bunker / the Battle on Endor, they could qualify as "army trooper".

    In general that stupid army / naval distinction is one of the worst things that ever came out of West End Games, IMHO. The Star Wars Universe is like the analogy to an ocean with islands (i.e. planets) and the stormtroopers brought there on ships are essentially marines in the traditional Earth sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marines

    I'm not aware of any piece of OT canon dialogue that ever made such a distinction: It's the Imperial Forces vs. the Rebel Forces.
     
  24. Lt. Hija

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  25. whostheBossk

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    I believe they're in Rogue One. Not just standing around looking bad arse a again and even if so...fine by me.
     
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