ST The relationship between Finn and Rey. SEE FIRST POST WARNING

at some point in the reylo thread someone said their kid or nephew or someone saw something that supported reylo. I'll have to go back and find it on my train ride after work

 

Really? My word we live in a crazy world.

 

Sure sure...back in the 1950's. And not with franchises like this. TFA was a fun safe movie. I really don't think were going to much outside the box from here on out. Just the way it is when a corporate entity is at the helm. I do think it's better then George being a corporate entity and still believing he was still a quasi hippie rebellious independent filmmaker (kind of like Steve Jobs was except Jobs was incredible as a corporate entity) like he was with the PT. But it will never be like it was in the 70's and even early 80's when George was that quasi hippie rebellious independent filmmaker leading a group of rebel quasi hippies. But it's a topic for a different day really.

Nanosoft

Disney is more involved a bit with Star Wars then it is with Marvel and definitely more then Pixar where Disney essentially just signs the checks and Iger comes down to tell them they are all great twice a year (even with TGD bomb). That us remember as well, Lucasfilm is only in charge of Star Wars. KK admitted that Disney is going ahead with more Indy films independent of Lucasfilm.

 

Found it.

 

The reason I don't think there's a chance in hell of Reylo happening isn't because Disney is afraid to go outside the box in general. I think it's because specifically with respect to SW, Disney sees it as more than a $4 billion asset. You don't screw around with an asset of that kind of universal appeal and value by throwing in a weird plot into the main saga that, while it will appeal to the CW crowd, would make the wider audience at large react with endless WTF faces. That's a risk that can result in ridicule, laughter, derision, and worse, people staying home. You don't change a billion dollar formula like that. It's bad business. It's hard for me to picture a gothic Reylo romance being told in a way that wouldn't stop SW from being a family affair for a huge portion of the audience, and SW's whole point is to be a family affair.

 

Which is why they are corporate entity running the show instead of a rebellious filmmaker. Your simply not going to get outside the box stories. Your only going to get safe and predictable good ones.

 

Yeah, I thought that was weird when I read it in there. It reminds me of how someone posted a story of a therapist stating that Reylo has nothing to do with abuse because Rey fights back.

That kid wasn't taking it that seriously, and further, kids (I hope) didn't/couldn't pick up on the sexual assault parallels in the scene. It's not like Reyloers, or that kid, pulled the sexual undertone out of thin air. It was placed there intentionally, it's just that it was placed there to give off rape vibes.

My seven year old didn't pick up on anything romantic, though. She just noticed that the bad guy kidnapped Rey and made her cry, but then Rey fought back and escaped.

 

Just because you can successfully resist torture, doesn't make it not torture. It just means that it wasn't EFFECTIVE torture. And just because you can fight off an attempted assault, doesn't make it any less of an attempted assault. It just makes it one that failed. Although in Kylo's case, it only partially failed since he got some information out of her before she started really resisting. Heck if he had gotten to the point quicker, like with Poe, instead of just digging around randomly in her private-most thoughts like a creepy voyeur, he might have actually gotten the info that he needed.

 

http://vanitazz.tumblr.com/post/136706887449

Don't want to repost the gifs, but I never noticed this. Highly doubt it was purposeful, but still some nice symmetry....

I actually beat it like 15 years ago or whenever it was that it came out. I think Revan disappeared at the end of the actual game to the "outer rims" or something (Which made sense), and he was still gone by the time KOTOR 2 came out, but I think that TOR and other related materials brought him back.

I'm not even sure what the canon-status of that stuff is, to be honest. I think that it takes place so long before these movies, and because the MMO is still ongoing, LF would just as rather not interfere for now.

Regardless, I don't think there is much to glean from it (In regards to this issue at least). It might have been cool for a videogame to hand-wave the atrocities of one of it's villains under "redemption", but the movies will be more precise with these issues.

I've not heard this anywhere (Don't know about the Indy stuff, but LF has always been reported as just as autonomous as Marvel)

https://www.inverse.com/article/5784-marvel-reorganizes-gives-kevin-feige-more-super-power
http://makingstarwars.net/2013/08/john-lasseter-from-pixar-says-lucasfilm-to-remain-autonomous/

Obviously it's impossible for people like us to gauge exactly what their corporate structure is like. But it seems that Marvel, until they got rid of Perlmutter, had less autonomy than LF.

Edit : JJ and Pablo have both confirmed what the interrogation scene was, doesn't matter who saw what or how they interpreted it.

 

In the novel, Kylo felt "sentiment" to her and how he losses focus for a brief moment and lets Rey in. It's going to be a theme they are keep harping back on. Kylo after all is a Skywalker and furthermore IMO he will be the last one. Iger comments really are putting into focus what I been expecting more and more. They are going to drop the episodes after IX. The JJ line about "it's all about marketing it like 1977" is baloney. Disney wants to move away from the Skywalker saga. That is why they only have announced 9 episodes and nothing more other then there will be "more Star Wars" after 2019 instead of 12 episodes like George had written out. They clearly want to take the franchise in a new direction.

Nanosoft

Why don't you talk to JJ Abrams who had Bob Iger calling him every other day in London asking "how is my $4 billion movie coming along" LOL! After he puts down the tums, I am sure JJ will tell you Disney was more involved then one thinks.

Nobody has true autonomy. Not even Pixar. They do have to answer ultimately to Disney and I am very curious what will happen once Lesseter steps down.

 

This is where I disagree. Out of the three heroes, there will be one Skywalker, and that will very likely be Rey, the parallels between her and luke aren't a coincidence imo, her dreaming about an island where he is on isn't a coincidence. Your right, kylo does feel sentiment to her, he let her live in the flashback in her vision, and he seems very interested in her, but no for romance at all.

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I bet dollar to donuts she is not a Skywalker. There were way too many reasons not to including (and I really don't get this) a small but very local minority that believe her character is somehow diminish if she is a Skywalker, particularly Luke's daughter. It really makes zero sense to me and I really don't see how it makes her any less of a character (I actually think a daughter helping to redeem her father would be very moving and show true strength on her part) but I read it enough times to see it's not just some joke.

 

She is a kenobi

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I'll take that bet, She is pretty clearly a Skywalker AND she might be a Kenobi as well

 

I never said she would be less of a character if she wasn't related. She has some relationship with the Skywalker family, I guarantee that.

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If she's a Kenobi then Reylo wins.

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Yea, many if the reylo'ers support her being a Kenobi, just so she can get with kylo, there is a chance she is a kenobi though, but it is very very slim imo. This is the Skywalker story after all, basically a family fight in a galaxy far far away. She is a Skywalker, 99.9 percent sure now.

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I said Skywalker AND Kenobi if her mom was a Kenobi (Obi-wan's Daughter) that would still make her and Kylo cousins.

 

Never said you did. Nor did I. Most people do not think that either. But some do. I think it's completely nuts. It be a beautiful story really especially if she winds up with Finn and they have children. Since he has no last name and IMO will become close to the Skywalkers, he will take on that name and that will continue the Skywalker family.

But some truly think Rey will be weak if happens.

Tharionn

I think she might be as well. And it would put Anakin's grandson against Obi-Wan grandwhatever. It also be a complete circle if Rey can do the one thing that Obi-Wan couldn't. Redeem a Skywalker.

 

She's not gonna end up redeeming him. I thing Finn will end up killing Kylo.

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See that is what I'm not buying I don't think they will redeem Klyo. and for what reason he had his chance at redemption and pissed it away. No let him be the evil sack of poo he is choosing to be.

 

It may sound biased since im in finnrey, but I don't want a redemption arc.

 

There is no way Finn is going to kill Kylo. If it isn't Rey then it will be Chewie. That honestly would be the most emotional of possible deaths for Kylo if he doesn't die sacrificing himself. Chewie had one job to do in the OT according to Han. Protect the Princess. You know that the moment that kid was born Han told Chewie "Now you have two. Protect the Princess and now the boy. Whatever happens to me, I don't care. Just protect them no matter what". If Chewie had no choice but to Kylo? Man that would be heartbreaking.

And yes he will be redeem. There is no way the last Skywalker goes out a total villain. The trilogy is ultimately Kylo's story. JJ even said so himself in a slip up around June. This is whole thing is about ending the Skywalker arc. Kylo is the last one. It's really his story much like the first six was about his grandfather. In the end, he will be redeemed.

Carl Rahl

Wait. Or better yet read the book. Kylo will be ten thousand times the tragedy story that Anakin was.

 

Tbh I still think he can get redeemed, he seems shaky, and although him killing Han was supposed to firmly hold his place in the dark side, he still doesn't seem firmly there, he is interested in Rey, and its possible he will go back to the light because of her. Now that doesn't mean they will get romantically involved, because I can nearly guarantee you that won't happen, but she at the end will want to help family. Still the likely hood of him being redeemed is low though so yea, and if he does get redeemed, I believe he may pay for it with his life, like Vader. Now, that doesn't mean I want a redemption arc lol.

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