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ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sunbloom, Dec 19, 2015.

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  1. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    So the best you can do....is point out that children like the bad guy.....which is nothing new since Vader is a highly popular villain....and adults dress up as Stormtoopers because their gear is color looking than the rebels....Ooookay.
     
  2. spacebaby45678

    spacebaby45678 Jedi Master star 4

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    But the babies do love Kylo.. the question you should ask is why? And the babies Never loved Darth Vader. I was around, it did not happen. I don't remember any babies loving Anakin, or Dooku or Sidious either.
     
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  3. Adept

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    Honestly, I don't see Rey bringing Kylo back to the lightside just because it's the greater challenge. I think it would take some work for her to get to a point where she'd even be willing to try. You have a young woman raised alone seeing a young man who literally had everything she wanted (Close family, friends etc) toss all that away in the pursuit of a goal she doesn't get. I'm not saying Kylo Ren's redemption is impossible, just that there is going to have to be a lot of growing on screen for it to seem plausible at this point and not just a result of 'Well it's Star Wars of course he get's redeemed.'
     
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  4. Adept

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    ...Say that again?

    Adept: You double posted (two posts back to back) when you could have edited your first post. You have a 30 minute edit window - if you find you accidentally made a 2nd post and your edit window is closed, please contact a Mod.
     
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  5. Keyra007

    Keyra007 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Would they hire Laura Dern to just shoot a few flashbacks as Luke's wife?
     
  6. vaderito

    vaderito Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They hired Von Sydow to die 5 minutes into the movie so don't be too sure that big name = big/important role. Plus, rumor had it that one of 2 female characters may be a villain.
     
  7. Keyra007

    Keyra007 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I hope they do it because I can't think of a better, thriling and more interesting plot than this one. :)
     
  8. spacebaby45678

    spacebaby45678 Jedi Master star 4

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    Show me a child hugging darth vadar, and not just one.
     
  9. vaderito

    vaderito Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Keyra007
    That's what Rian Johnson could make work. Looper has protagonist and antagonist who are the same person (one younger one older) and that's the case with Ren too (one Dark one Light that Dark one wants to snuff out entirely).
     
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  10. Keyra007

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    Two years ago Max was 85 years old, honestly I don't think he could play a much longer role at that age.
     
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  11. Berhan

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    Laura Dern's character = Benicio Del Toro's character wife & later revealed to be... Rey's mother? | We shall see.
     
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  12. BrehaSolo

    BrehaSolo Jedi Knight star 2

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    Thanks you so much.You guys,have already covered so much so I'm not sure there's anything I can add,haha.
    I have to say it's really unfortunate that so many people who ship Reylo are getting harrased about it(not here specifically but I've seen that happening on tumblr so many times)and I'm just like I don't get why Reylo is getting so much hate when we still have no idea whether it will ever become cannon.I mean even if Kylo does fall in love with Rey there's no guarantee she'll fall in love with him(for all we know she mgiht end up with Finn) so why the hate?
    Btw,could Benicio Del Toro and Laura Dern possibly be Rey's parents?Daisy Ridely looks like she could be a cross(or something like that) between Benicio and Laura and they're also the same ages(I know age doesn't mean anything but it's still interesting)
     
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  13. Darth Dementor

    Darth Dementor Jedi Master star 2

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    It's possible. For all we know her full name could be Rey Söze, secretly pulling the wool over everybodys eyes. Lol
     
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  14. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The reason why they do this gap between movies and the wait for DVDs is not only to have time for filming but to rewatch the OT and PT for clues. So quotes and such mean something later on, not at a first cinema viewing

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  15. BrehaSolo

    BrehaSolo Jedi Knight star 2

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    I found it inetresting that Maz tells Rey to feel the light inside of her that's aways been guiding her and later we see Leia tell Han that there's still light in Kylo.The wording in both scenes cpuld have been different-Maz could have told Rey to feel the Force and Leia could have told Han that there was still good in him but by using the word light an interesting connection develops between Kylo and Rey.We know how much Kylo is fighting the pull to the light and Rey aways rediscovers her powers after having scenes with Kylo.First the mind trick then when she was fighting him and he reminded of her of the Force so in a way Kylo has actually been gufing her and teaching her.It's kind of fascnating since we've never had this kind of dynamic between a hero and a villain in Star Wars even with Luke/Vader.
     
  16. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    I agree with what you're saying here. The fact is that Kylo Ren is capable of multi-tasking, and he certainly would have been able to defend himself if someone attacked while he was holding Rey. But it would have been THAT much more difficult for him. That's the point we're arguing here.

    He made it harder for himself, he put himself in a potentially vulnerable position for the sake of carrying Rey. And why would an entitled royal who has shown zero regard for anyone up until then concern himself with carrying a peon like one does a bride, especially when there are dozens of his minions running around?


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    These are the things that we wonder about here. Aside from the symbolism of the bridal carry, which has been discussed many times here, this carrying her is just so inconsistent with what we've seen of Kylo Ren. Does that mean that they're going to be a couple for sure? No one is arguing that. But it DOES suggest a special, personal interest in Rey on Kylo Ren's end, and since it's a romantic trope, it suggests the possibility of a romantic interest in the future.


    Whoa, Luke does NOT look happy to see Rey or the saber. Anyone who was still holding out for him to utter "My baby girl!" should be prepared to be disappointed. XD



    That's not how it works. That's not how ANY of this works.
    I'm pretty sure you didn't get scolded for expressing a contrary viewpoint. Many of the people who are countering your arguments here would be the first to defend you if someone tried to silence you simply for politely disagreeing. We're not rabid and irrational and a lot of us appreciate a good debate here. IIRC, that's not what you brought to the thread.

    Anyway, I like the Yoda meme so thanks for that.

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    Great conversations going on in this thread right now, unfortunately my lunch break is over. Catch you guys later!
     
  17. CEB

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    No, that's not "the reason"; it's a side effect of the production process and the fact that there has been a gap between each trilogy.

    ok, so here's what I'd like you to do; imagine I know nothing about Star Wars, but that I'm film literate. Explain, from start to finish, how the use of the word compassion links back to aotc, and how from that you have extrapolated potential for romance.
     
  18. Adept

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    ...aaaand goal post moved.

    Children tend to pick the coolest looking character...so 'm not sure what we are proving by having a small child hug said character....
     
  19. BladenSoul3003

    BladenSoul3003 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Oh c'mon [​IMG]

    I have been lurking on this thread for 3 weeks and reading all these same-old-meh-arguments-and-excuses so many times, Kylo is a monster~~~, he snuffed a village, he murdered his daddy, he hurted the tree,...etc... then faux-feminism, concern for little girls and boys, social justice,..., no one like Kylo, yada yada. [​IMG]


    So i just posted some fun pictures to reduce the tension. [​IMG]
     
  20. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    What do you know...I can accommodate you.

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    Even the girls like him:

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  21. spacebaby45678

    spacebaby45678 Jedi Master star 4

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    So you couldn't find one?
     
  22. Beardwalker

    Beardwalker Jedi Master star 4

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    I agree with everything about the scenario except the romantic hint part. I don't know if I stated it in earlier posts. but I think I did. I do think Kylo made it more difficult for himself due to a certain value or interest he has in Rey. But for me, I saw his interest as this: There is a map piece that leads to Luke skywalker. This is basically one of, if not the most important piece of information in the galaxy right now. And somehow, this girl was able to see it via the droid. Kylo sees her as basically a peasant and wonders how the heck this peasant got the droid to show it. So now there are 3 things in play. 1) Her mind holds the most important information in the galaxy, 2) The droid is no where to be found and 3) He is intrigued about who she is to be able to see the info since she is basically a no-one to him at least. Given that information, why would he hand off this girl to a stormtrooper or a group of them that could very easily lose possession of Rey when he can make sure she doesn't get away by carrying her himself.
     
  23. vaderito

    vaderito Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Fear leads to Anger

    Anger leads to Trolling

    Trolling leads to More Trolling

    Even Dark Side refuses to have anything to do with Trolling. ;)

    People wouldn't troll threads where they obviously don't agree with the subject of discussion and don't want to hear arguments, unless they are afraid that the topic may become canon. And that fear makes them angry so they troll because they have to convince themselves that their argument is going to win out.

    In this thread's case, fear that leads to anger and trolling is that Reylo may become canon and that Kylo may redeem himself. Hence why they spend more time posting here than on threads that support whatever they support. Everyone's posting history reveals where one spends their posting time the most. So that's that.

    But bottom line is that there must be a serious "threat" of canonical to provoke trolling. Everyone knows that Kylux won't happen so thread titled Is Kylo and Hux Love Story...Possible? wouldn't attract trolling because nobody takes it seriously. I think that even homophobic crowd wouldn't attack Storm Pilot thread because they don't think that Disney would ever make them canon. So it's a huge success for Reylo that it's taken this seriously considering that marketing gave it ZERO push, not even a hint.

    vaderito: Folks coming into the thread to dispute or disagree do not trolls make. We also make it a point to not talk about other posters. Their views are open to debate, their motives less so. In future, any concerns about trolling should be addressed to the mods via PM (or via "report" if serious) to be handled "out of thread." Please note you are welcome to hold the opinion that you do; I'm not commenting on your right to believe as you do but to be aware of how it may come across.
     
  24. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    Look up
     
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  25. Adept

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    Uh...no...the thread title specifically asks if the relationship is possible. It's not a thread dedicated to Kylo/Rey Fanart, it's not a thread where we are to discuss how much we love the idea of a particular pairing...it's litterally about whether or not people think the relationship is likely....so yeah...people are doing exactly what the thread was set up to do...discuss the possibility.

    Adept: Double post. Please don't post 2 posts back to back.
     
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