ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

He had the map in his possession, Ren didn't even bother to search his mind to see if he had seen it he just decided to slice him down? With Rey he wanted to see her mind immediately. Thats what i thought anyway, maybe I'm wrong.

 

Oh god, I loved Spuffy so much! Passionate or platonic, they reached the parts other ships on other shows have never reached! Their relationship was so messed up to begin with, but their first real sex scene together quite literally brought the house down. It's so rare to get the kind of chemistry that sets the screen ablaze. So much stuff happened between them, more than she ever had with Angel (although many viewed Bangel as the OTP). Those scenes between Spike and Buffy in the final episodes of the final season, where he brings her back from defeat and knows her better than anyone else are just amazing. I would be satisfied for Kylo/Ben and Rey to reach that same level of mutual understanding even if it was never romantic love.

 

I'd love a subtle Stormpilot... we don't need any heavy petting, just the hinting alone would be scorching hot!! Gawd, a girl can dream.

 

I need to go to bed, but I foresee this image being stuck in my head for the rest of the night

 

Unfortunately most of the fans have already dismissed him as irredeemable because he killed Han Solo. That act is what defined him to them, completely ignoring the other points that made him interesting. It actually reminds me of an asoiaf/got character Jaime Lannister. He’s forever labelled as the ‘kingslayer’.

In every TFA video review I've seen there's always someone who thinks Kylo as a weak villain without layers. But there are also people who are deep enough to look past the patricide and are quite invested in his character development. Kylo's polarizing, which not so much of a bad thing. Whether a fan or hater, they can’t stop discussing about him. That makes him a memorable character.


It used to be disappointing that some people judged him already, but then I decided to see it as an advantage. When you think about it, Kylo's got the element of surprise. To them, the last act of the movie seemed to paint him as an irredeemable monster so imagine their shock when he gets redeemed. It will be powerful.

 

He also didn't know that Rey had seen it either but still wanted to see inside her mind to find some answers about the map's whereabouts. Technically, she should have been on the same level as that old man but he treated her differently. I remember that I was scared for her when he was chasing her because of what I'd seen him do to random people before. He'd mercilessly sliced people down even if they had value to him in terms of the map's whereabouts.

 

Agreed, it's really just an excuse for Kylo Ren to sweep Rey off her feet and bridal carry her, and unmask for her, and stare deeply into her eyes, so petulant and sure -- and then have her show him just how vulnerable she can render him in an instant. She's the boss. Oh snap, and he liked it. Part of him really did enjoy getting manhandled by her, figuratively in the interrogation scene, and literally in the duel.

The map is like, whatever. Lol. XD

On that we can agree: the most important thing is that we get the best episode VIII possible, and the romance should be secondary to that.
I guess I don't see a reason why we can't have both.

 

Poe strikes me as a sort of Captain Jack Harkness from Doctor Who/Torchwood kinda guy. If a children's show can create a popular pansexual character, who mainly has same-sex relationships on-screen, why not Star Wars? Like you said, it doesn't have to be explicit. Lots of people went crazy over the hugs and lip bite, so they don't have to go much beyond that.

Team Reylo and Stormpilot all the way!

 

I have finally thought of what I want to see with Kylo and Rey.

Well an example at least of subtle romance.

I remember in school we had to study a film called Witness. Which stared Harrison Ford (oddly enough). Who plays a police detective who is in hiding, recuperating within an Amish family home.

Now within the film, Fords character shows signs of sexual tension between himself and an Amish woman who lives there.

They are forever glancing in each others direction. Odd movements of tension between the two as they don't know how to act with each other, because well she can't really "get" with Fords character as her father doesn't want it to happen.

There is a scene were Ford walks up in front of the girl after he is finishing helping to make a barn, were he takes a glass of lemon juice and drinks it whole, with his hands right up in the air.
The girl is breathing heavily and looking him up and down while the juice is poring down his neck as well as his chest which is sweaty and his shirt is half open.
Her eyes are wide and mesmerized and you just know instinctively that she wants him. And she wants him BAD!! You know that the heavy breathing is her heart pounding heavily at this act.
He also wants her which is why he does this act.
By the end of the film you know that the two of them did it. Even though you don't see that they did.

Staring, heavy breathing, side glances, brush of skin. This is something that will capture the audience. Not a traditional romance.

Adam Driver can without a doubt pull **** like this off.
Rey will hopefully become more mature and feminine. She is already, but become aware of male attention more so.

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Could you just imagine what it would have looked like if Finn were in Rey's place when it came to Kylo and Rey's scenes together? "The boy I've heard so much about..." Just imagine the bridal carry, the interrogation scene, the final duel... I mean really.

 

Ah, the infamous murder scene. I don't think I'll ever hear the end of "murdering Han Solo completed Kylo Ren's descent to the Dark Side." It's hilarious how fundamentally incorrect that statement is. In fact, it had the complete opposite effect on Ren, as I outlined in the post you quoted earlier. The call to the Light was heightened. From a narrative perspective, the act made Ren's redemption unavoidable.

And yes, you're definitely right. Maybe I'm just a petty person, but three months later it still depresses me that people didn't see all the complexity in this character. He was the real breakout star, no doubt. Rey and Finn don't excite debate the way Kylo Ren does, not even close, unless that debate has anything to do with Rey's origins. The writers and actor worked so hard to bring to life a deep, conflicted, multi-dimensional, childlike, snarky, lost soul of a villain, but because people were expecting a complete mirror-image of Darth Vader, they overlooked everything that made Ren so unique. I guess this also does come down to the fact that most people saw the movie once... not everyone paid for repeat viewings.

 

"you know I can take whatever I want? *gets close to him, stares at his lips, smiles at him*

 

Is it just me, or has it occurred to anyone that the writers purposely created two very conflicting open ended questions at the end of TFA? To spell it out for those who don't get where I'm going, we have millions in the world who noticed the sexual energy between Rey and Kylo Ren, and we also have the question regarding her parentage. Objectively, removing my shipper goggles, both are valid questions. I can't help to think this was done on purpose as a misdirect in either direction. Even if it weren't for the whole Reylo aspect, I would still be rooting for her to not be a Skywalker, as it would be just too predictable. However, I can't help but think the writers knew what they were doing when they created this whole debacle...

 

The reaction I've seen from reviewers has been overwhelmingly positive. Most share our interpretations of the character and see the potential he's imbued with. Wikipedia sums it up well:

"Both the character of Kylo Ren and Driver's performance have been positively received. Many complimented Ren's conflicted nature and depth, as well as his costume design, and noted there were many places the character could be taken in future instalments. Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian praised the character and the actor alike, saying, "He is gorgeously cruel, spiteful and capricious – and unlike the Vader of old, he is given to petulant temper tantrums, with his lightsaber drawn." Terri Schwartz of IGN also called Driver's performance "spectacular", noting that "his performance adds great depth to a character who could have come off as one-dimensional, and the implications of his arc leave a viewer with plenty to think about after they leave the theater." Collin wrote, "To describe Kylo Ren as this film's Vader would be accurate in a sense ... But it would also be to undersell the deep ingenuity with which this astonishing character has been crafted by Abrams, Kasdan and Arndt, and also the wells of emotional tumult Driver invests in him." Comparing the character to the one-note Vader of the 1977 film, Leon calls Ren "a living battleground between darkness and light, making him a far more resonant and familiar portrayal of that struggle than we've ever seen in Star Wars ... [which] makes him a far more interesting villain." Abrams told Entertainment Weekly, "it was a great joy to work with Adam Driver on this role, because he threw himself into it in a deep and remarkable way." Todd McCarthy of The Hollywood Reporter noted, "Ren is given a pronounced inferiority complex, a clever bad guy twist that could be taken to interesting places both in the writing and performance." Peter Travers of Rolling Stone wrote, "The bald-faced attempt to clone Vader, one of the greatest badasses in film history, is clankingly obvious, but Driver, masked and unmasked, gives him hypnotic and haunting contours." Kyle Buchanan of Vulture.com was underwhelmed by the reveal of Driver under the mask. Leon, however, argued:

"But that face, that of a normal, vulnerable young man, is the most subversively terrifying thing about J.J. Abrams' reimagining of A New Hope. Rather than pure evil, Rein is something far more familiar: He is human. Just like the real-life young men with minds clouded by fear, hate, and anger who commit unspeakable acts inour world every day... all the visual cues leave the character open to criticisms of not being "evil" enough - are all signs of Ren's struggle between the Dark Side and the Light." <----- Beautiful <3

 

Finnlo or Kyfinn anybody? Actually does this ship exist?

 

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I left the cinema not really noticing the first time that there was a connection between Rey and Ren, literally they had tried to bash it over my head in every scene they were together in but I only saw something odd when he asked to be her teacher lol. I did notice he treated her differently though but it just wasn't hitting me on a deeper level here.

Second view I saw everything, I think first time watching I was just focusing on the plot, not looking deep enough at the characters. (Usually happens second viewing with me)

Without the second view goggles, Originally I left thinking Wow amazing movie with awesome effects. I left thinking Ken is an interesting character,Rey is a Kenobi, Rey friend zoned Finn (in a jokey way). Ren sees Rey as interesting and his soul needs to be saved.

Second view, I cant believe how much I missed the first time with Rey and Ren

 

I'm actually amazed at the ships that I find exist, even in fandoms that I've been into for years.
That said, I learned yesterday there's those who ship Rey with Luke. Even if he's not her dad (god forbid if he is), that is just....I can even say because I don't have the words!

 

Also. Titanic. Some line the old lady had when she was describing what she was feeling as Jack was drawing her and they were all sitting there googly eyed

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I noticed it my very first viewing. I walked into the theater expecting the time honored tradition of a Star Wars movie. I walked out of the theater thinking, "What the hell did I just watch? Lol

The second, third and fourth viewings had me just eating it up.

 

I need to sleep, last thought of the night. Seeing as Ren personally took Rey onto his ship, who put her in the chair?

 

Assuming for a millisecond both Rey and Ren and Finn and Poe were designated to be endgame from the start, I have this weird feeling that only one half of each pairing was made aware. Oscar Isaac was informed about his thing with Poe, and Adam Driver was informed about his fascination with Rey. It actually makes a ton of sense from a production perspective. Rey and Poe don't know about the "one-sided" attraction of their pairs yet, so why should their actors? This would have been the case as of The Force Awakens anyway, not necessarily anymore, thus Boyega's "it's just a bromance" statement recant.

 

Saw a couple of Rey/Luke fics, not as many as Leia/Poe though (I did read through a few of those- hot damn). I only saw like one Finn/Kylo fic, LOL. It is all about the stormpilot and reylo on AO3.

 

Somebody is obviously into Greek tragedies....

 

You mean the chair/reclining bed like thing? He did I imagine.

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http://makingstarwars.net/2016/02/star-wars-episode-viii-ach-to-filming-in-april/

So does this tie up with Adam in Ireland then?