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A/V STAR WARS REBELS (show's over, spoilers allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by JoinTheSchwarz , May 20, 2013.

  1. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I think the QF example shows that something appearing on Rebels is far more of an aesthetic decision that anywhere else--in which case you're probably right.
     
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  2. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    God, they made the ship even cooler than the old EU version. So gorgeous. :D

    As for the next EU ship, I'll echo the sentiment that they need to bring in the Dreadnaught heavy cruiser. Preferably in an episode where they get some Imperial senator with Rebel sympathies to tell them the location of a ship scrapping depot that has old pre-Clone Wars Republic Dreadnaughts that were part of the Judicial Fleet.

    Too much? :p

    --Adm. Nick
     
  3. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Bah. Forget capital ships - I want T-Wings and R-41s.

    An Assault Gunboat would also be acceptable.
     
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  4. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    So I'll go with Assault Gunboats. Hyperspace-capable Imperial fighters that look like stylized Imperial shuttles are probably interesting enough visual and role-wise to warrant an appearance!
     
  5. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes, gunboats please. And escort shuttles. And ATRs. And strike cruisers.

    And I second the notion that the Quasar Fire redesign is an improvement on the EU. I always thought the ship was rather ugly, but I really like the Imperial version here.
     
  6. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Something just hit me: the bomber torpeados in this episode look like they did in the old star wars arcade game.


    Many that was a fun game.
     
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  7. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Also of course they look like in ESB ;)
     
  8. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    We'll also probably see a lot of the QF (seriously if they don't name it Phoenix Nest....) in the future, which is awesome.

    Well, that is, until the Empire shows up. "That's a pretty fleet you've assembled there.. would be a shame if we blew it all up."
     
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  9. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Dreadnaught heavy cruiser, with old school Republic coloration,,would be epic. It would look so good mixed in with the various CR90's, Hammerhead corvettes, and other Rebel ships in the Phoenix Rebel Cell.

    Dammit, I can't get over how happy I am about seeing various Rebel cells. The Phoenix Rebels from Lothal/Garel, Alderaanian Rebels, Twi'lek Rebels, etc. God help me, I'm dying to see the Corellian Rebel cell. Or the Chandrilian Rebel cell. Oh **** it, I wanna see the Mon Cala Rebel cell too.

    Wait, wait. One more. I'm a closet Duros fanboy and want to see their Rebel cell too. Just because they look so cool and are a Core Founder that is non-human.

    I've given up on ever seeing Bothans, mostly cause they'll end up being based on some McQuarrie concept art. :p

    --Adm. Nick
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The only real difference, besides a possible scale shift, is the single large hangar bay broken up into the 4 smaller bays + the added roof slant so that the top isn't completely flat, though, right?
     
  11. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Not when they are bombing, when they are flying straight. Even the way they dissipate when shot is from the game, not ESB
     
  12. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The back is a little different too -- those things sticking out the back, and the engines are different. The bridge windows are also different, as they're more Imperial style. Generally it has a more Imperial, less bulk freighter, feel.
     
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  13. The2ndQuest

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    I think the top piece gives it that effect more than anything else- it basically has the top half of a light cruiser model stuck on top.
     
  14. Rogue_Follower

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    Yeah, it's the subtle Imperial aesthetic that I like. The angularity, the different top, the monochrome, the consistency with other Imperial designs.

    The MicroMachines Flurry is what I think of when I think of the older version. Its flat top and beveling are just... awkward.
     
  15. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Eh, I'm partial to the micro machines beveled flat top- it gave it an organic Rebel quality that was appropriate for it.

    Here though, the Imperial aesthetic works well, though. Really, they could still be similar designs- if the top Imperial "tent" armor plating gets removed over time it might expose the beveled flat top underneath (or the beveled flat top is the result of patchwork repairs replacing the lost armor), similar to the Y-Wings.
     
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  16. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The bridge, nose, and rear are still different too :p

    Here's a side-by-side: https://twitter.com/admiraljello/status/700170967230898176

    It's still amazing to me that we got a micromachine of the damn thing at all. Really, the pre-PT EU toys were kind of extraordinary considering the long dry spell we got after that. I mean, we got a ton.

    I'll have to dig out my old Flurry, take a picture of it next to the Interdictor so they can have a canon party.
     
  17. MercenaryAce

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    The old designs' turbolasers would have come in handy against the light cruiser. But it was more vulnerable to fighters I suppose.
     
  18. The2ndQuest

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    I was actually comparing those two pics before- but I'm on my phone right now so it's hard to notice the differences without a larger screen/zoom.

    As for the EU toys, it's a shame we didn't get more but I guess they didn't sell well (though, as grateful as I am for my Flurry, choosing TAB was a bizarre candidate for a toy set- JS & HTTE I could totally understand).

    Did they make an Interdictor? I don't think so.
     
  19. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Man, Sabine is going to have a field day with the interior of that Quasar Fire.
     
  20. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Interdictor's newer -- from WotC Starship Battles game.

    Amazingly though, it scales almost perfectly with the VSD and ISD in FFG's Armada set. Purely by accident, but it works.

    edit: COPL was always the holy grail of those EU micro sets. I could never find it. And I know Nick here spent a fortune getting the Mon Remonda.
     
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  21. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Given that they made a point of saying it was much bigger than the old interdictor - and given that in the episode Sabine's description suggests it's a very new model - I would guess that both designs exist - the Immobilizer 418 (Tarkin, Heir to the Jedi) and the "Star Destroyer with gravity wells" (Rebels).
     
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  22. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    I can see a simple reason this carrier looks different from the Flurry- it's a purpose built design, based on the Quasar Fire-class bulk freighter, just like how the Imperial Gozanti is more angular and militaristic than the civilian one. The more angular back gives a stronger keel, while splitting the hanger deck into 4 hangers lets them specialize operational tempo and potentially minimize damage and disruption compared to a single large bay. And the Empire has more capital ships, so turbolasers are less important than lasers to fend off rebels and pirates who rely more on fighters.
     
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  23. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Even if "Flurry-pattern Quasar Fire" never get recanonized - I'd say this looks pretty close in looks.

    Maybe in the Sinrebirth Universe, this ship could be the Flurry?
     
  24. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Only 3/6 got released in the US, IIRC. We got JS, TAB & HTTE but missed out on COPL, DFR & DA.

    The DFR one had the Scimitar Assault Bomber, which was that TIE variant I was trying to think of earlier...

    EDIT- Makes me wonder what they would have done had the series continued. With the two-trilogies-and-a-stand-alone pattern, obvious 7-8 would have been TLC & COTF. But 9? With a '97 release window and with SOTE separate, and them unlikely to start a new trilogy by itself, that leaves... The Crystal Star and Callista one-shots. Did we miss out on a micro/Waru? lol.
     
  25. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    I could see the TLC set being a Dreadnought and/or Interdictor, Wild Karrde, and a reprint.
    They could have done Rogue Squadron as a stand-alone. X-Wing, Lancer Frigate, something else.