ST The relationship between Finn and Rey. SEE FIRST POST WARNING

Some more cute Finn/Rey art

 

WTF. Does OJ "If I did it" Simpson have to do with Finn and John Boyega?

 

Yea we probably shouldn't go anymore close to that topic lol.


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Well, that's a really good show FX has going on the trial but yeah; Rey & Finn have displays of affection that are canon and not just fan art/fanfiction from tumblr or deviant art. I love fan art because you can draw whatever you want (Rule 34 jedistorm ftw) but you don't have to imagine any sexual tension between these characters; they want to be together in some form or another. Rey already adores Finn & kissed him, that's not fanfic it's canon.

 

So Kathleen Kennedy gets the final decision? Isn't she an advocate for feminism and gender equality? And doesn't she have a husband and 2 kids? If she has final say on everything, then I don't think she'll make Rey the "strong woman who doesn't need love". Rey is already so iconic to so many young girls, why would KK wanna give them the message that if they wanna be strong, they can never care for and love someone? That's not only a contradiction to what KK seems to believe in, but also a contradiction to who Rey is, someone who wants family and affection. Also, none of us know what Luke will be like in episode 8, but I think we can all agree that if he tells Rey she can't have any attachments or love anyone, then that would pretty much make him a hypocrite.

KK has said that Star Wars is about the Skywalker family. In an interview she did back in late 2015, her exact quote about it is "The Saga films focus on the Skywalker family saga. The stories follow a linear narrative that connects to the previous six films. The Force Awakens follows Return of the Jedi and continues that generational story."
So basically that's her flat-out confirming there's a Skywalker in this new trilogy. KK has also said that Rey is very significant to the new trilogy. Everything we saw in TFA points to Rey being a Skywalker. I mean, other than Luke obviously, who else could be the Skywalker for this part of the saga? Every other character already has a last name, except for Finn, which is what I'm about to get to.

Is it a coincidence that Rey and Finn are the only two characters who don't have last names yet? Did it happen randomly, as in the writers realized they never gave them last names and decided to just go with it? Definitely not. This was planned out and done for a reason.

So, if KK is telling the truth about the Star Wars saga continuing to be a Skywalker story (and why wouldn't she be?), and if Rey turns out to be a Skywalker (highly likely at this point), then Rey will need to get with someone who can take her last name. Man, if only there was someone that Rey has already connected with and shown a deep level of caring for, and if only that someone happened to not have a last name......

Honestly, I might be reaching badly with this, in fact I kind of feel like I am lol, but it just makes too much sense to me.
If there's going to be a love story, and if they want to continue the Skywalker family, than Rey and Finn will almost definitely happen. Learning that KK has the final say makes me think that there's now an even greater chance of Finn and Rey falling in love with each other.

 

Pablo Hidalgo just shot down Daisy's reason Finn might be FS. Hinting he isn't

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/statuses/707232294130425856

Cad Bane, Pre Vizsla, Grievous, Cato Parasitti, and Han Solo are non-FS who have lit and/or fought with Lightsabers

 

As you said, "he shot down her reason". However, I am going with the Hosnian screams for possible FS. We will just have to wait and see.

 

We've already gone through that list. Why didn't he just effing say "Finn is not fs"? The game is getting a little old.

 

Yeah, until Pablo Hidalgo, JJ, RJ or whoever else says the words "Finn is not FS. End of story," I'm taking these tweets/quotes with a grain of salt.

 

All these tweets indicate to me is they are fine with people speculating about it. Daisy's comment also indicates that. They aren't trying to sell Finn as the Han Solo of the trilogy, which frankly even if he is FS maybe they should have done. It would be more of a twist, if they care to provide twists, if Finn wasn't marketed with the lightsaber or shown lightsaber dueling with the dark side villain or given the Hosnian scream scene or shown defecting from the FO in such a way that is easily interpreted in terms of the force. They intentionally want people to wonder, and if he isn't FS in the end, I'd consider it trolling.

 

I can share the frustration, but it is kind of a game - I think they really want to keep ppl guessing until 8 comes out. So Pablo here is indulging in "counterintelligence" in relation to Daisy's comments, to keep people off balance. I'm still convinced Finn is FS, I just don't know if they're going to get into a Jedi narrative with him in 8. I think it would be awesome if they did, cos Finn's arc would ultimately go from FO Stormtrooper>>Jedi. Which would be amazing.

 

I still don't really mind. If anything this is just further proof that a non-FS like Finn could continue to use a lightsaber, which is still better than the 'Resistance Fighter #746' role people keep trying to shove him into. But, this still isn't confirmation one way or another.

Regardless of KK's personal life, the whole 'strong woman who don't need nobody' (groan) trope doesn't work with how Rey has been established as a character. She doesn't want to be alone, no matter how much the fandom wants her to be. She is a character who desperately wants attachments and family. Do those attachments have to be romantic? Of course not, platonic love is equally important. But she just isn't set up as a character who would outright reject romantic love--she's supposed to be this girl who has been starved of love (of every kind) her whole life, and is open to all kinds of new experiences and relationships. I don't see why romance, especially with someone who filled a deep-seated emotional need of hers and has the upmost respect for her, would be a bad thing.

If they truly wanted to go the 'strong woman who don't need no man' route, they could have left out any romantic undertones between Rey and Finn and avoided the 'wants to be with people and have relationships' trait of Rey's. Pablo's answer to that tweet re: Finn and Rey would have been a flat 'strictly friends.' I'm personally relieved they didn't go anywhere near that, because IMO it's a ridiculous and tiring trope reduces a woman's worth to whether or not she's in a relationship and, more often that not, when it's applied, the female character ends up as some stoic, unfeeling, one-dimensional robot. I don't want that. I want female characters who are nuanced and complex and who can have romantic relationships without being turned into love interests--you know, what nearly every male protagonist has been allowed to have since the beginning of time?

That's why I love the character of Rey so much. She's independent and strong--'I can handle myself'--but she's also loving and open and hopeful. And her relationship with Finn, if it went romantic, wouldn't reduce either of them to a love interest because of their unique (in the Star Wars universe, anyways) dynamic. It may lean more towards Finn, but there's nothing wrong with that if we're going for progressive and 'mold-breaking.' I mean, how often does Hollywood portray Black men as loving, gentle, and affectionate love interests? The answer is 'never.'

The last name thing may be a bit of a stretch, but whether it was intentional or not, it paves the way for the re-establishment of the Skywalker matriarchy. Happy International Women's Day!

 

This probably won't happen, but it'd be pretty cool if Finn and Rey both became Jedi, but were different in what kind they were. I could see Rey being a Guardian and Finn being a Consular, or something of that sort.

 

Look at the list, those are all the “bad ass normal” characters. That seems like his path.

 

Spot on. Yeah, I don't want them to make Rey the one dimensional character you talked about. Too cliché. John Boyega and Daisy Ridley's chemistry alone can make for a beautiful relationship between their characters.

 

Still doesn't really bother me. I want Finn to be FS as much as the next guy, but if he isn't, as long as he gets a satisfying arc and character development that doesn't involve being shoved to a B-storyline, I'm content.

 

They, being Pablo Hidalgo, JJ, RJ, KK, and Disney/LF in general, shouldn't be surprised people are asking about Finn being FS or not. He's seen using a lightsaber not just once but TWICE. He uses said lightsaber AFTER it calls out to Rey, which means this "red herring" or "twist" or "serve" is pointless. It's established Rey is FS and that Rey is 1A to Finn's 1B in terms of importance to the trilogy's plot. Then, we get a "force sound" (which will remain debatable until the DVD/Blu-ray comes out) after Slip touches Finn's helmet, the screams and explosions from the planets from the Hosnian system, etc., etc. But there's still a debate about it instead of Pablo Hidalgo or hell, even Daisy, saying "No, he's not FS" to keep this "debate" going for another 21 months. If after all this time, there's still no definitive "no" about Finn being FS and we find out he's not FS at the end of all this, we have a legitimate reason to complain about how we just got trolled after seeing those hints from TFA and not getting a proper "no Finn is not FS".

 

I'll admit I'll have a problem if the marketing for TFA was just for a pointless misdirection. That would feel very "hackish" and frankly, mean spirited.

 

I don't think that if he if the Bad ass normal in the plot, as they said “the reason Rey wants to go back” then I'm cool with that.

 

Oh yeah, I'd be peeved about it, but I'm just preparing myself for disappointment if it doesn't happen. I like Finn as a character, so I won't love him any less if he isn't FS.

 

Exactly.

However, if it's the case that Finn is not FS, but he has an awesome story line anyway and he's not relegated to B-story line status, then I can let the "red herring" marketing and scenes from TFA go. All I want is an official statement describing why we had all of these vague answers when all we needed was a conclusive, candid answer like, "No, Finn is not FS because blah blah blah." This makes me lean more towards Finn could possibly be FS. This could be a scenario where Pablo Hidalgo and others want us to continue this "debate" and make us doubt it's possible so the "Finn was FS from the beginning" reveal would be more satisfying. If we're wrong, we're wrong. But, if somehow it was all "editing errors" or "red herrings", just give us an honest answer, so we can move on.

 

LucasFilms: "NO....because you will stay, debate and be fired up for the film when it release at which point all we have to do is win you over....and we can do that whether or NOT Finn is FS."

 

Pablo Hidalgo seems to love to "stir the pot" and keep the debate going. One thing that was pointed out to me, and re-reading what he has said I can see it now, is that he tends to play devil's advocate/provide and alternative theory/idea to counter one that's brought up by others. But he rarely flat-out answers the question directly. It's more hypotheticals/maybe's, for example"

"Is that rock on Luke's island a rock or a gravestone?"

Pablo: "Sometimes a rock is just a rock."

He doesn't actually say whether it's just a rock or something else, he just goes "well it could also be this." And he does this constantly.

 

Yes this thought had occurred to me as well. KK is one of the most powerful and respected female executives/producers in Hollywood. She's a protégé of both Lucas and Spielberg, Lucas's hand-picked successor to run LF after the sale, and she seems to have the full backing of Disney as well. She's also been married for almost 30 years and has two children of her own. And society has been pushing the idea, at least in theory" that women CAN have both (a successful career, and a family as well if they wish), KK is living proof of this notion.

So yeah, I could see her potentially wanting to help push that idea to other women and young girls, through Rey. That Rey doesn't automatically need to condemn herself to a lonely/isolated existence just to be a Jedi. That she can be an awesome Jedi AND have a family/friends as well. I don't know if this will end up being the case 100% yet of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, especially with how her character has been yet up already.