PT Rethink Your Life: The PT Social Thread: Episode II (image/gif-heavy)

...that avatar. Every bloody time

 

I never want his avatar to change.

 

The only way it would get any better is if there was a picture of Anakin's face carved into a banana then it would actually be Bananakin Skywalker

 

Everyday is Christmas in this thread.

 

I honestly think people have come to romanticize Qui-Gon's role. Yes, he did not always go with the rules of the order, but he still lived the life of a Jedi within the order. In a way, he was just as dogmatic as the council itself, just from a slightly different angle.

He is shown to be pretty firm with Obi-Wan and even quite stubborn at times, just like the council. He even tells Anakin that being a Jedi means living a hard life that comes with many sacrifices.

At the end of the day, Anakin's decisions were his own. Many of his insecurities and problems stem from the way he grew up and the events that shaped his childhood, but the path he chose once an adult was of his own making. Anakin never felt at home within the order and wanted something different out of life. Notice how all the other Jedi always talk about the force this, the force that? Anakin almost never does that. He never willingly embodied the Jedi philosophy as his own. Of course, he is not to blame for this, but to put the blame on the order is wrong as well.

 

Bananakin Skywalker & Emperor Potassium

 

I really want someone to have Bananakin Skywalker as their user name now. REALLY.

 

My brotha Ezon, great post on Qui-Gon and Anakin. i agree

Sadly, there are still men in our society who think that showing any sign of emotion makes you a wimp. It's part of the reason why so many go all fanboy on Han Solo (a character who is fine but ridiculously overrated along with Boba Fett). I don't see an issue with it at all.

That's for the detriment of most men (and really society in general) in which we lack the ability to relate to others and show some self-awareness and respect.

 

I don't think we'll ever top banana.

 

@museinthewoodenshoes I agree, Anakin's actions were his fault. I don't put the blame on the Jedi's rules. I do think Yoda completely failed as a therapist when Anakin consulted him in Episode 3. But to blame the Jedi for Anakin's actions is not right. I think the circumstances that Anakin was in pressured him but there's no way around it and you're right, Anakin's mistakes were his mistakes- no one else's.

 

I dunno. I never thought we'd top Original Saucy Battledroid Day and then the actual next day was Read Obikin Slash for Science Day.

This thread has shown me time and again that it always has more to give.

 

My love

 

museinwoodenshoes Cryogenic Darth Nerdling Sepra And everyone....Here are some great words of Lucas for SW and the PT...

It's amazing...

You've often said that Star Wars movies are primarily meant for children, but The Phantom Menace was always going to be a film that was going to be significant for twenty/thirtysomethings. How did you address this problem?

Basically I didn't. I kept it as it was originally intended. You can't play too much to the marketplace. It's the same thing with the fans. The fans' expectations had gotten way high and they wanted a film that was going to change their lives and be the Second Coming. You know, I can't do that, it's just a movie. And I can't say, now I gotta market it to a whole different audience. I tell the story. I knew if I'd made Anakin 15 instead of nine, then it would have been more marketable. If I'd made the Queen 18 instead of 14, then it would have been more marketable. But that isn't the story. It is important that he be young, that he be at an age where leaving his mother is more of a drama than it would have been at 15. So you just have to do what's right for the movie, not what's right for the market.
The next film is a love story and I don't know how that is going to be taken by the fans. They think of Star Wars as one kind of movie. And it's drifting a little more - by the nature of it being a love story, it's less of a kids' movie because they don't like to sit through all that yucky stuff. But it's still aimed at the same age level, so it's going to be a real challenge for me to get through that part. And then the third film is very, very, very dark. It's not a happy movie by any stretch of the imagination. It's a tragedy. People think of the Star Wars movies as happy movies. What they're going to do about a tragedy, I don't know. It will probably be the least successful of all the Star Wars movies - but I know that.
How does the process for writing Episodes II and III work?

It's mostly storylines, they've not got that much detail in them. I know the characters, where they go and what they do, but the details - who the characters interact with, the plot devices and the dialogue - are not set yet. It shaves down, as time goes on, things are eliminated. Ultimately the final story is between Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin and the Queen. It's really their story. Those four characters.
Did the stinging American reviews hurt?

The critics pretty much hated the first three movies; they said the dialogue is bad, the acting's wooden, no story, too many special effects, it's a children's film. That same review got moved to Empire Strikes Back, that same review got moved to Return Of The Jedi and that is the review that is getting reprinted now. You'd think that after a while, they'd figure out that's what these things are. It's always gonna be like that because I see it as one movie, not six. The irony was that it was written about Star Wars that in C3PO I had created the most irritating character ever created on film. Now one of the reviews forThe Phantom Menace says in Jar Jar I have created the most irritating character ever created on film. It's exactly the same sentence. It was like, "Hey, haven't I been here? I already did that once."
Speaking of Jar Jar Binks, certain sections of the fanbase and audience have violently taken against him. Can you see where they are coming from?

Yeah. It's always been there. There's a group of fans who don't like comic sidekicks. They wanna see The Terminator, they wanna see a different kind of movie. But this isn't that movie. That same group of fans absolutely hated R2 and C3PO in the first film; in the second film they hated Yoda, he was not a well-liked character – "we can't understand what he's talking about, he's green, he's a muppet." In the third film, they hated the Ewoks, couldn't stand the cute little sidekick characters – "we don't like it. It makes it beyond a children's film." They can't stand it that there is this aspect to these movies, but comic sidekick characters have been in every single movie.
And will they continue to be?

And they will continue. I'm sorry if they don't like it. They should go back and see The Matrix or something. These are PG movies. I'm not gonna take those kinds of characters out. Obviously when you get a small group of fans who hate something, it becomes compounded by the internet. The press picks up the internet like it's a source. They don't realise it is just one person typing out their opinion. It's been my experience, and the experience of 20th Century Fox, that most of the people who go to the movie, at least 95 per cent, love Jar Jar. He's extremely popular with kids. He's popular with women. It's funny that the five per cent of the audience - even less probably - who don't like Jar Jar are the ones that get written about. In the toy world, Darth Maul is the biggest seller, but Jar Jar is up there. Part of it is an ageism thing. "I'm cool, I'm hip, I'm embarrassed I'm liking a movie that appeals to young kids." You have to get over the fear of being declared unhip or not tough.

 

What makes his story arc even more powerful is that he got to realize his mistakes and destroyed the emperor, thats why I also really like RotJ

Ezon Pin George Lucas
Plus its true that not many people liked TESB really when it came out.

 

Wait, since when is Jar Jar popular with the ladies??


Oh how I love George I'm so sad he's retired.

 

See, I don't really think that it was just Yoda, who failed there. Anakin did just as much.

I love this scene so much, because it goes to show the fundamental difference between Anakin and the other Jedi and how Anakin never embodied the crucial parts of their philosophy: Attachment is not love and that you have to let go; you cannot help change and if you cling to things it will only cause you pain.

Sure, one could say Yoda could have been more attuned to Anakin's distress, but the message still would have stayed the same no matter what. You have to let go of your attachments and come to balance within yourself. Anakin never found that, and nothing Yoda could have said, safe from "let's find a way to cheat death" would have changed Anakin's state of mind at this point. Maybe it would have been different if he had had this conversation with Obi-Wan, but Anakin's fear of disappointing his father figure prevented this from happening.

 

Well, one thought came to mind......then I remembered T&C's

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Blaming Yoda for Anakin's fall is like blaming German voters for Hitler.

 

Hello pallies.

BANANA IS SO YUMMY

 

FFS LOL

Seriously. Whose behind that? lol

 

DarthAnakin96 I think the people who didn't like TESB when it was released were simpletons who didn't want anything different from A New Hope

 

You mad man! You actually did it!!!!!

 

TESB is the second greatest movie of all time and best sequels of all time. Better than Godfather Part II.

 

Whose soc are you?

 

I don't think people are actually blaming Yoda or at least I would be puzzled if someone did, but this is a pristine example of a character acting according to the universe he is in as opposed to how some viewers would like to see them act in relation to our reality.

 

YES.

Someone own up to this. Please. You need to be recognized.