PT Who Thinks the Prequel Trilogy is Better than the Originals?

Seriously... I LOVED TFA (my second-fav SW movie, atm), but I wouldn't vote for it as best trilogy because, you know, it's impossible to judge the TRILOGY at the moment.

 

I'll have my answer in 2019.

 

I can say without a doubt in my mind that all 6 Saga films are better than Disney's fan fiction. But of the 6 films I'm more into the PT than the OT. But all 6 are Star Wars to me.

 

And that's fine for you. But such things are subjective. TFA is my second favorite Star Wars film and I generally prefer the OT over the PT (though I think Sith is about on a par with Jedi). At least based on polls here, most here would seem to agree that TFA is at least in the middle of the pack, and maybe towards the top. That doesn't make your opinion invalid, of course. Art is subjective. But fans who think its the worst of the Star Wars films seem to be a relatively small minority.

 

Going to be interesting to see how I view the completed ST against the NJO series as the continuation of the PT/OT saga.
Loved the NJO series for years. Just hope that E9 has as much a satisfying end like TUF does.

 

Yeah, I'm hoping it has a satisfying conclusion, but I'm worried about IX. I was hugely excited for TFA as the first new Star Wars film in 10 years, as the long-awaited and hoped for Episode VII, and as a return to the aesthetic of the OT, and I ended up loving the film. I'm equally excited for VIII as a continuation of that story and as the film where I expect the ST will start to come into its own and define its own personal identity; I'm really curious to see what a Star Wars film written and directed by Rian Johnson looks like, and I think if any forthcoming films (Saga and Anthology alike) have a shot at beating TESB as the best in the series, it's that one. But IX? I'm cautiously optimistic for IX, and only because we don't know who's writing it (Johnson is supposed to do a treatment, but we haven't heard anything re: a screenwriter) and I'm not sure how much I trust Colin Trevorrow. I didn't hate Jurassic World, but... it wasn't the best, and the more I find out about it the more I realize that many of the things I hated were the fault of Trevorrow himself, and not some studio executive committee. I'm more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and keep an open enough mind that he'll prove me wrong, but right now my biggest fear is that the ST will ultimately consist of a really good start, an even better and wholly unique continuation, and an unsatisfying conclusion.

 

Everything about this is a YES!

 

I think the PT are brilliant but the OT wins by a mile - though there are aspects of ROTS that bring it up to part with some of the OT. My favourite though is TFA.

 

The PT is certainly lesser in execution, but far more narratively and thematically compelling than the OT.

 

It's a complicated matter. I love the all six films... But it's clear to me the trilogies have different feelings in certain way. If I am honest I think I like the prequels more. I find the plot more complex, I find more analogies, theories and ponders in them. I think the characters are more interesting in the prequels too, and a little more complex. Anakin seems more complex to me in the prequels, for example. The bad guys are not than bad sometimes because there are many reasons to fight and everybody is in a grey terrain of the moral choices.

That doesn't mean I don't like the Original Trilogy, I love it too. But there is something in the prequels I love a little more, if you get me. I have to say I find the era of the prequels very attractive too. It was an era where the people made the things (cities, vehicles, dresses, etc) with crafty look. And those years are very attractive to me in the political and social sense too. I love the ambient of the Clone Wars, with wars, conspiracies, Jedi Knights in their prime, the Sith in the shadows, important characters we love playing an important role on the events... Yes, definitively I like the prequels a little more (forgive me, I love the OT too, I swear!).

 

It's too early to evaluate the sequel trilogy now.
But between the original and the prequel, I have to say that I love both. There's only one difference: the original is much more funny than the prequel trilogy ;D

 

I can't believe people are saying PT is better than OT...

 

That's because I think it's better than the OT.

 

I like the prequel trilogy better even though I think that The Phantom Menace isn't a great film. Attack Of The Clones is really good and Revenge Of The Sith is amazing. It is cool to see Anakin descend into darkness to become the sith lord known as Darth Vader.

 

If don't like TFA, that's cool with me, but please don't call it fan fiction. You'll regret statements like this cause I guarantee alot of elements from TFA are straight out of Lucas notes or outline. I think the chess pieces were changed by JJ & Kasdan (Han gets a bigger role), Rey is maybe older, etc. In time I think it will come out.

To call it fan fiction will essentially be a shot at Mr. Lucas.

 

I have not seen the newer Disney Star Wars movie..do you think the next generation of fans like it? I've heard that Anakins grandkid is the new baddie Yada yada yada. What did you not like about it?

 

I've always loved the PT more than the OT. There was just more going on and more interesting characters in the PT in my opinion. Its really the PT that made me fall in love with Star Wars

 

I don't know if I'd call it "fan fiction". It's certainly "based" on Star Wars created by George Lucas without being Star Wars created by George Lucas, however.

"Commercial fiction" is probably a better term, both in view of the way it was marketed and for all its reactionary, retrogressive qualities, including being shot on film, not digital.

 

Come on Cryo, EVERY Sequel or Prequel made in Hollywood is commercial fiction simply because its a known quantity to make money.

Lucas even admitted in a 2004 interview with Charlie Rose that Lucasfilm was having financial problems in the late 80's/early 90's. He was given a presentation of what a Prequel trilogy could do for the company in terms of profit. The movie, home video, toys, etc would get the company out of the red.

Lucas would never finance a 100 million movie at that time other then SW because it was too much of a risk. SW was a known quantity as Lucas is a very smart businessman.

So yes, Lucas told the story he wanted with the Prequels but he knew it was a money maker cause it had SW attached.

 

I knew you'd respond like that.

This ground has been gone over many, many times.

It is true, of course, that Lucas has a very good business brain, and there is a prodigious commercial dimension to Star Wars. Hell, he sold the brand and his film companies for $4 billion -- so, so what, right?

The "so what?" is that, despite (and, perhaps, to some extent, because of) his commercial interests, Lucas is also a maverick, an artist, an innovator, an architect, a genius: someone who broke the mold in multiple areas and literally altered the film world, for better and for worse, as we all know it. He didn't win an Irving G. Thalberg Award for nothing.

You're the sort of fan who wants to forever muddy the waters and downplay Lucas' tremendous artistic investment in the thing he created. You want everyone to forget about that commercially-motivated hack and focus on the genius of The Disney Corporation and its slew of wonderful artistic monoliths, right? Like Lucas had nothing to say with the prequels? Like he wasn't pursuing a personal vision?

Your rhetoric seems engineered in a bid to have it both ways: The prequels are grandly executed, the prequels are a tragedy, the prequels are about Vader, and they certainly have their fans, but then, hey, Lucas was all about the money, just like Disney!

Sorry, but people can criticize Disney, because there is a difference, whether you like it or not.

 

Wow, I kind of expected more from you then a statement like that as you're usually one of the better posters here. I don't think I can respond cause your answer really didn't leave room for discussion.

Oh well, off to watch TFA again....#9 viewing and counting.....

 

Nah, be honest. You didn't expect more; or you certainly didn't hope for more, did you?

You seem to have resumed looking for issues and picking at prequel fans in every other post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Have fun!

 

Go check my posts, I only argue with people who take cheap shots at TFA and JJ calling it fan fiction or calling him a hack. I have no problem with people who don't like the movie as I have been respectful to you until you start making these statements like commercial fiction about.

I guess it's OK for fans around here to do that, but you seem to have a problem when someone takes a shot at the PT and Lucas.

Face it, there are TFA bashers here and they are following in the footsteps of the PT bashers so don't pretend it isn't happening. This site is dejavu, but now it's the TFA bashers who are the loudest here.

 

That was a quick viewing!

I swerved away from the "fan fiction" label, but did, indeed, call it "commercial fiction" -- with reasons given.

And I think you see what you want to see. Some people are obviously a bit het up about the film -- but can you blame them?