Rogue One [Official Info] Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - December 16, 2016

Let's not panic until we see a trailer with the new footage.

 

I actually see this as a good thing. Obviously you wish that the movie is pretty much perfect right away like the reactions we got to TFA, but I'm really glad that they care so much about this they are willing to go back and fix it. This is not a bad thing at all. All we are going to see is the final product - I don't care how they get there.

 

Finally. Looks like something a bit more factual just broke:

http://deadline.com/2016/05/star-wars-rogue-one-re-shoots-no-test-screening-release-date-1201765101/

Paraphrasing: No test screenings were held. Disney (LFL?) execs made the request for reshoots because the first cut lacked the "edge" of TFA, and the "story needs to gel".

 

I could understand a bit of panic if it was late November. But it's not even June yet! Edwards has the whole summer and fall to shape this thing.

And who knows? Perhaps Edwards showed an early cut to Disney execs to make the case for additional funding (as some rumors suggested that its budget was lower than originally expected), and they were finally convinced to greenlight more pick ups and/ or reshoots.

Point being, it's difficult to assign either a positive or negative value to this rumor. It could be a good thing, or it could be a bad thing. Heck, it could result in the best Star Wars film ever. We just don't know enough to make a judgment, or to even adjust our expectations.

Me? At the moment, I'm basing my expectations on what I saw in the trailer. That's the only material I'm certain about.

 

There you go. Disney want to get close to the appeal of TFA and have ordered reshoots accordingly.

 

Well, I would put Deadline over a website I've literally never heard of.

 

I think one positive from this is that they probably won't hold back at Celebration in July. They're probably going to show a lot to get the excitement going again.

 

My guess? They're looking for more of a humorous edge. And if that's the case, I'm with them. My main fear when Edwards described this film was that the characters would be too po-faced. Godzilla was plagued by this problem (as was Monsters, which I otherwise loved), to the point that all of its characters are quite forgettable, including Bryan Cranston's character. So if in four weeks, Edwards can inject some appropriate humor into the proceedings (perhaps of the wartime, gallows variety), and if that'll make this motley crew more fun to watch, I'm all for it.

Though of course, I'm now wildly speculating about what "the edge of TFA" actually means...

 

It could be anything. We already know McQuarrie was brought in for a polish, but that may not have been enough. Any weak links are being countered in any case, which is exactly what didn't happen enough on the PT (IMHO). I think they don't just want "good enough", which is heartening.

 

Per Deadline:

According to sources, the first cut was lacking the edge that Force Awakens had and the story needs to jell.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/star-wars-rogue-one-re-shoots-no-test-screening-release-date-1201765101/

 

I hope this article is hyperbolised Bantha Poodoo. I find this extremely disturbing. I was looking forward to Rogue One more than Episode 8. I hope it turns out to be good.

On the plus side, any publicity is good publicity... right?

 

That pretty much means too many characters got out of this thing unscathed, it needs that Han Solo gut punch. Plus things not flowing well enough

 

A positive: http://epicstream.com/news/Darth-Vaders-Scenes-in-Rogue-One-A-Star-Wars-Story-Described-As-Brutal

 

That's something that should play to Edwards strength...that feeling of disaster....the characters in this should end up feeling like they just got hit by a hurricane....a Vader Bomb.

 

Well that looks to be a much more accurate description of what is going on and doesn't have all the drama filled hyperbole just to get some hits.

 

Per The Hollywood Reporter:

Much of the cast and director Gareth Evans will regroup in mid-June for a round of shooting. The move is happening after the execs screened the movie, which has not tested before audiences, who felt it was tonally off with what a “classic” Star Wars movie should feel like.
The goal of the reshoots will be to lighten the mood, bring some levity into the story, and restore a sense of fun to the adventure.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/disney-orders-reshoots-star-wars-898562

 

Well, I hope they don't go too far. Levity is good but this isn't a classic Star Wars movie. That's kind of the point of the Anthology films. Bringing a different tone to the stories should be a goal not something to be afraid of. That said I'm sure it'll work out and I'm not really worried.

 

Now see, it was a tonal issue and it was a fear that the film wouldn't be as fun as TFA. It doesn't matter what an early trailer depicts--what matters is making sure that the SW continues the momentum it has regained since TFA.

 

I just hope this input from Disney strengthens the film rather than diluting it.

 

Agreed, but really, it's too early for a straight-up gritty war movie. Rogue One probably would have been better as the second spinoff, but this is the situation they're now in.

 

Well this might count as a spoiler so I will tag it

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The Hollywood Reporter mentioned that it leads up to just moments before Ep. IV and they felt the tone was off from that movie. So they wanted to match the tone of Ep. IV since it is basically leading right into it

 

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This is a spoiler forum so you don't really need to tag it. We're all spoiler junkies here.

 

Ultimately, I can see how studio execs would watch the movie and think, "If this takes place right before the original Star Wars, why doesn't it have the same feel?" I wouldn't be surprised if most general audiences had similar reactions.

 

There we go. Actual trusted sources reporting it without the hyperbole. Good stuff.

So tone is what needs tinkering. I get that, although part of what sold me on the anthologies was that they'd be different from the saga. Either way I'm glad it's not as was reported where the movie was a mess and just needs a bit more cohesion and a slightly lighter tone.

Pure speculation but as we discussed yesterday I honestly think Edwards had a darker ending such as the remaining crew regrouping on Alderaan with an ominous shadow appearing in the sky.

I don't think TFA was any more quippy than the previous films so if they sprinkle a few in then I'm all good.

 

Sounds more like the ending alone is what needs to be adjusted


Those are two conflicting reports tho one says it needs more edge which would mean the ending needs a bigger punch leading into a new hope and the other one says more levity