ST Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) in the ST

This just solidifies my belief that if that rumor is true Luke doesnt actually want him dead and that this is some kind of test for Rey.

 

So is this going to end up with Rey on a swamp planet with her telling Luke "Why didn't you tell me!" And "I can't kill my own cousin/family/blood!"

With Luke saying "Then Snoke has already won, you were our only hope."

????

 

But what kind of test? It's hard to figure out Luke's motives if the MSW rumors are true. Rey already showed she's willing and able to beat Kylo in TFA, now it seems like Luke's just trying to get her to finish him off without regard for whether or not she wants blood on her hands.

And isn't Kylo Luke's mess to clean up? At least Yoda wanted Luke to face Vader because he himself wasn't strong enough anymore. What's Luke's excuse?

 

Maybe Luke knows he could never bring himself to defeat Kylo, because he's known him since he was a baby. Same with Leia. And since Rey is the only force sensitive they've got, and she's defeated him before, it has to her to finish him off.

Or maybe Luke can sense Kylo really is infatuated with her. And he wants to exploit that. That sounds really horrible though, like he's pimping her out. Geez.

I just made myself sick.

 

I honestly dont know maybe to test Reys compassion? It could also be to scare the bejesus out of Kylo. Luke probably knows him better than anyone short of his mother. I can imagine him being rattled by the idea that his kind, wise uncle would send someone to kill him. After all he probably know Luke equally well and knows the extent of his compassion. If hes out to get you you know you screwed up.

Personally I dont think Luke would see a difference between killing someone yourself and asking someone else to do it.

 

I agree, and didn't Rey already prove her compassion when she let Kylo live in TFA? She could have easily finished him off then, but instead she ran over to Finn. And if she's angry at Luke for trying to force her to kill Kylo, that's already proof of compassion right there. It's more like he's trying to goad her into abandoning her compassion and becoming a killer.

It's hard to figure Luke out in these rumors. He's acting more like Snoke disguised as Luke.

It sounds like any infatuation he might have had vanished when she embarrassed him and now he's just out for blood.

There are a lot of details about what the characters do and don't want in this rumor, the only missing piece really is the "why".

 

Luke wasnt there when Rey fought Kylo. Im not a writer. Im sure the pros can come up with something much better than I could. We don't know whether any of these rumors are true or somewhat true or not true at all. Im sureit will make sense in the end. It doesnt help that we have no idea what Luke has been doing for the past 30 years aside from traveling around with his students, looking for Jedi lore. The thing that intriges me is that Pablo said that Luke and Ben as of Bloodlines havent been a part of Han and Leias lives for a while because they were "undertaking something else"and that this is an important part of the story. What were they doing and does it have any connection to Snoke or even Rey?

Edited to add. I just had this really crazy theory. We know shapeshifters are a thing in Star Wars right? Also the original treatments involved a rescue mission for Han and Leia who had been kidnapped for years. What if not long after taking Ben on as an appentice Luke was captured and replaced by a shapeshifter? I know it's silly, but theres not much new to talk about so I figured id throw it out there.

 

I like your theory . It could be workable , may be Luke was captured to keep someone from being killed . and Smoke is a shape shifter

 

The twist: Luke is Snoke, and Snoke is Luke.

 

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That too

 

Snoke is Han Solo. Think about it.

 

Thinking hurts

to much

 

I thought Snoke was the bottom half of Darth Maul.

 

Are you saying his face looks like ***? That's not very nice.

 

But accurate

 

Prediction that I'm admittedly not crazy about but could totally see happening: Luke discovers some sort of device or Jedi deus ex machina mind trick that somehow strips Kylo of his Force abilities thus making it possible to capture and imprison him. That way they can sidestep the whole issue of whether Luke or Rey will have to kill Kylo to stop him. Also it would leave the door open for somebody to break Kylo out of prison and restore his Force abilities in a future Star Wars film. I could almost see a scene where Luke, Rey, and Leia all work together to basically use the Force to cross the streams, so to speak, to depower Kylo. Lord I hope I'm wrong!

Like I said I don't like it but it's just the type of corny left field plot device that I feel like we've seen in other big budget movies time and time again. "How we are going to stop the bad guy!?!??!?" *Superhero whips out the secret weapon* "Hold on guys, I'm going to try something!" Superhero saves the day.

 

I can see that happening more easily than I can see Luke forcing Rey to fight Kylo to the death, then casually walking towards Kylo to finish him off after Rey's been "taken out of the fight".

It's not that farfetched that some sort of McGuffin will come into play. Luke was searching for the first jedi temple; it stands to reason that there's something inside the temple that he's looking for.

MSW spoke of this fight scene taking place at "the final Jedi ruin site Luke and Rey need to visit", maybe they're going from ruin to ruin looking for something.

Supposing this is true, I wonder if whatever they're looking for is in any way connected to the "Cast 7 medallion" KMT's character is apparently carting around? Might be a way to keep the parallel storylines from feeling too disjointed.

 

Yeah the Jedi temple is part of what made me think of the idea. They find a McGuffin at the temple and bust it out in the third act, a la Chechov's gun.

I don't know. The idea, at least as how I envision it, seems really hokey but maybe professional story writers could make it work. It just feels like something out of a Marvel movie not a Star Wars movie.

 

Both of their names are one syllable words that end with -ke.

 

Maybe Luke can do a temporary mind wipe on Kylo which erases not his ability to use the force but his memory of how to use the force or even that he has the ability to. This effect of course wears off after a few years, making Kylo a danger again in a future episode or a possible Force ally if he chooses the light the second time around... but either way, it would give Luke and Rey time to devise some kind of prison situation to keep Kylo alive but ensure he's not a danger to others. That or Carbon freeze like dear ole dad LOL.

 

Kit Fisto? Look at their eyes!

 

I think Luke is testing Rey's resistance to the dark side. Rey has not proved anything yet, and is just only starting to use the force. There is NO way she is prepared for the seduction of the dark side. Luke needs to know how measured Rey will be with Kylo, or if she is fueled with rage over Han and near death of Finn. Sometimes emotions grow and mutate over time.