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Rogue One Jedha and Church of the Force Discussion

Discussion in 'Anthology' started by Gabricjen, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. Darphus_Mon

    Darphus_Mon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hmmmm, I'm looking for a thread where someone mentions the dudes walking around with this guy's helmet
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    Perhaps the visual dictionary tells us? The Clan of the Toribota? A resonant helmet? A clue for Rey's vision? Hmmmmm
     
  2. Mungo Baobab

    Mungo Baobab Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes, it's very similar, isn't it? Both appear to be based on a type of traditional Japanese Kasa hat, the Takuhatsugasa worn by Buddhist monks, which makes me believe that the Clan member from Rey's vision is also associated with one of these Force worshipping religions.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasa_(hat)

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fe/ed/b5/feedb55c2148a5793776cb92098cb94e.jpg
     
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  3. Darphus_Mon

    Darphus_Mon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mungo Baobab. Cool, very cool. I just thought it was so in your face (picture Pee Wee's Big Adventure scene where everyone has a bike but him), people walking around with them on Jedha, I wanted to see what everyone else thought. Sure, there may have been some on the Ring of K____, but who knows? It just seems strange for several people to have them on Jedha, it's part of a "clan" featured in the visual guide (glancing at you, PH) wearing "resonant hats" for it to just be random recycled TFA props.

    Maybe, as always, it's just me...
     
  4. Mungo Baobab

    Mungo Baobab Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I suspect there's something to this. These different Force worshipping groups have appeared in TFA, R1, and several of the books and comics. Incidentally, I'm also struck by the fact that Gallius Rax wears a crimson red robe when alone in his quarters, and makes repeated references to faith. A number of the Jedha faiths wear red robes, including the Disciples of the Whills, and the Brotherhood of the Beatific Countenance, and the R1 Visual Guide says that red robes are the robes of the enlightened.

    Rax was also raised in an orphanage run by anchorites who followed the Consecrated Eremite on Jakku, so he was brought up in an environment ( there is a reference to a Disciples of the Whills orphanage on Jedha in the R1 book ), so it seems that Rax was brought up by one of these Force worshipping groups.
     
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  5. Darphus_Mon

    Darphus_Mon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Does this point even more to Rax being Snoke? As much as it seems unlikely it just seems to make more and more sense
     
  6. Mungo Baobab

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    Maybe, though personally, I think Snoke is an older holy figure from these Force religions.
     
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  7. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    any news about Jedha? Did not visit R1 threads for some time.
     
  8. Sarge

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    News about Jedha: there's a fresh crater, and a long hard fallout winter coming.
     
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  9. moreorless12

    moreorless12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes I'm increasingly getting the feeling this might well be the case, expanding the force religions history obviously has the potential to allow Snoke to have as more detailed background with some depth to it. I would personally preffer this to any link to previous characters if it can be pulled off well.

    Personally I think looking at the more "mystical" side of the force is a good way to keep everyone happy. On one hand you have a lot of fans who felt this aspect was missing from the prequels but equally you could say it doesn't really contradict them at all. I'm not well versed in the lore of the prequel era but I certainly remember seeing fan analysis can cast the Jedi's fall as partly the result of losing touch with there older based and becoming too heavily involved in politics.
     
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  10. Organafan

    Organafan Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I like how with the last two movies, we are seeing how different people in the post-Republic galaxy perceive the Force and the almost myth of the Jedi. Before this, the closest to that was the phrase "May the Force be with you" being a common expression.
     
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  11. Bob the X-Winger

    Bob the X-Winger Jedi Knight star 3

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    Rogue One spends a bit of time in the ancient city of Jedha now when it was at its greatest, long before the Galactic Republic in the era of the first Jedi Order i am seeing it as a production hub in the Galaxy. So the Kyber Crystals that are mentioned in Rogue One are found on the planet so presumable at one time the market place on Jedha would of been full of merchants trading Kyber Crystals to be used by the Jedi Order. Sort of like blacksmiths making Sabers for the Jedi.

    Jedi's from across the Galaxy would come to receive their weapons from blacksmith Lightsaber makers at Jedha. And as we saw Galen realizing the scientific importance of the Krystals and using them to power the Death Star perhaps the Crystals were also used in the market place and city for similar purposes such as energy supply. Crystals to power transportation. The indication is that Jedha was a manufacturing mecca for the Jedi before the Sith came along to wreck the place. I see this as a distinct possibility
     
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  12. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Cool idea.
     
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  13. Oswin Oswald

    Oswin Oswald Jedi Knight star 2

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    It was probably a mining town with the Jedi order as one of their biggest customers for the crystals. I'm fairly sure the Jedi would make their own weapons. They wouldn't trust anyone else to make them.
     
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    THREAD MERGE AND TITLE UPDATE.