ST John Boyega (Finn) in the ST

So Ive been thinking about this abit and based on comments made from John about Finn being looked at as a big deal in the Resistance now and Rose kinda being his Fangirl because of what he did in TFA, I think the beginning of Finn's arc in The Last Jedi will kick off with him down playing most of the tall tales despite Rose's instance of his esteem maybe even to his annoyance which he may express verbally at some point , kind of a stark contrast to how he acted in TFA when he first meets Rey where he's blatantly lying about being some Resistance big shot.

But as fate or the force would have it as the adventure unfolds they'll be faced with all of these dangerous situations that specifically because of his experiences in TFA, Finn has become more than capable of handling obviously to Rose's bewilderment and perhaps to even Finn's own surprise (who could still be a little nervous about going all out as he's still technically in recovery from his injury)

Anywho , it all reminds me of this character Li Nalas from an episode of Star Trek DS9. Li was this Bajoran Resistance War hero who everyone thought was dead but was secretly alive in some enemy prison camp so they rescue him and bring him back to Bajor where he's treated as a walking legend yet he's kind of embarrassed about all of this because the story that made his name in particular is highly exaggerated to the point where one could chalk it all up to dumb luck. At one point he even tries to skip town just to escape all of the respect and revere being thrown his way. So as the story goes on he gets promoted to a position he doesn't want and a certain brewing civil war that started just before he arrived escalates and before he knows it he's right back in the thick of a battle once again only this time he's not exactly the center of attention and spends most of the fight in a supporting capacity but delivering crucial victories and inspiration when severely needed that by the time the dust settles most of the spectacle surrounding his military genius had become a reality.

I don't know it was just something that really made me think of Finn's story when I saw it and how it could evolve from how we left it in The Force Awakens. When you think about it , this all compliments the earlier concepts of Finn , with the initial Sam character being reborn a hero during a ritual after being taken in by what was supposed to be Maz and her tribe after he gets hurt in the initial TIE crash and not his duel with Kylo. Instead here we have Finn basically being taken in by Leia and The Resistance and placed into the Biohexacrypt where he supposedly comes out in better shape than ever and poised to kick First Order Butt.


His scene in the trailer kinda echoes all of this brilliantly.

 

Oh, wow. A Li Nalas reference. Don't get those everyday.

 

http://de.ign.com/m/star-wars-episo...herausforderungen-fur-finn-in-the-last-jedi-s
Hey guys I found this interview where John talks to Dutch IGN and he mentions a new weapon Finn gets to use and how the training is different. I think it's guaranteed whatever John is talking about is what he fights the executioner with and most likely assaults Phasma with, my mind went to this pic in Before the awakening
http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/01/Nines.png

 

http://www.ecartelera.com/noticias/38904/star-wars-kathleen-kennedy-entrevista/ (google translation)

 

More good news!

 

Not a coward, just a bit too comedic! Finn can be a great character, on par with Rey.

 

This makes me so happy, and hopefully diversifies the fighting we have seen in sw, between Phasma using a new staff, the executioner with a new baton and Snokes guards with cool weapons I'm very excited to see if they can come up with great physical fight scenes that don't involve Jedi.

 

Really curious what this new weapon is that has the power to cut Phasma's arm off.

I wouldn't put it past Pablo and the Story Group of introducing the Darksaber in the films.

 

He may just take one of the Executioners' weapons.

 

This is something I'm curious about, because I think that Finn will face the executioner and Phasma at the end of the film when his infultration goes south, so it could just be he defeats the executioner and uses that, but MSW described it as a more elaborate riot baton, which if I remember correctly Finn came in contact with and it sent him flying, I think the FO uses weapons meant much more for brute force, idk if there weapons could cleanly cut a limb off, but MSW describing Snokes guards in the FO using different variation of bladed swords and shields makes me blindly hope he obtains one of these weapons and engages Phasma with it. But who knows maybe its something different entirely and he picks up a new weapon from Benicio following Dubrovnik.

 

I'm a little excited for the new weapon but I still hope he gets a lightsaber again. I'm still kind of miffed about the way his use of it ended in TFA. But on a side note that Finn-Poe comment makes me a little nervous. I really hope they don't go that route. Poe being gay is fine with me but not Finn. He's already shown a pretty clear attraction to Rey in my opinion so just making him gay out of the blue would seem way out of place and look very forced (no pun intended). Besides it was Oscar that said he was playing his character romantically in that relationship not John so there's that too. Not to mention how suspect it would look to have the first non-white male lead just so happen to be gay. Plus it adds fuel to the fire that this trilogy is pure fan-service.

 

Stormpilot fans are taking it in stride.

 

When TLJ is released, there will be more sunken ships as well. Stormpilot will not rot at the bottom of the sea alone.

 

Yep. And if you search Kathleen Kennedy on Tumblr and Twitter right now you'll find exhibits A and B for the dark side of shipping.

And please everyone note I'm not criticizing shipping in general. Shipping can lead to creative, thoughtful engagement with your favored fandom. But there are pitfalls. If you're not careful, you might build an inner world where, for example, your ship of two characters who had 5 brief minutes of interaction leads you to see certitude of an "endgame." You might become so convinced of your headcanon becoming canon that someone else finding it a bit of a stretch, as unlikely as Luke/Han or Aragorn/Legolas happening, is seen as a threat and the ultimate insult.

And if you're not careful, that can lead to bad places. There are people currently wishing death on a real woman because two non-existent men aren't going to kiss.

 

Not to mention, would these fans prefer Rian retweet more Stormpilot art when he knows it's not happening, or have Kennedy be honest and tell them the truth? There's no rational excuse to be mad at her.

 

i cant even begin to read that out loud. guy having a stroke wile he is typing or something?

 

I was testing some podcasts review shows for the upcoming American Gods series. One I stumbled across was hosted by these two American women. It was going good at first for the most part listening to them. Then they started telling stories about how other shows and their showrunners disappointed them by not being as open to fan fiction as they felt they should be. Basically it came down to the fact that on multiple occasions they started to sour on a show because the people running the show never explored a gay relationship between two established heterosexual characters or came across as indifferent or slightly dismissive of fans who suggested such couplings. These podcasts hosts were pretty much getting indignant over some real petty stuff. They seemed oblivious that writers/producers don't need fans forcing relationship ideas down their throats. I decided that I could skip this podcast going forward.

The shipping craze on social media (particular twitter and tumblr) has gotten out of control. It's everywhere. From a SW perspective when TFA came out you had a bunch people who wanted Rey and Finn together, but the loudest folks were those who had other pairings in mind. There were those who wanted Rey to be with villain Kylo. Because even an evil white male who tortures people and murders his own father to prove himself is a better option for Rey in many people's eyes than a black guy apparently. While most of Reylo shippers were in all likelihood not racist, there were still plenty in their ranks who were based upon unapologetic comments they made online. Still they were in some ways better than the other group of Finn/Rey detractors. The Finn/Poe shippers were mostly progressives and they should have known that a pairing of protagonists like Rey and Finn would have been a rarity for a major motion picture and thus would have gotten plenty of negative feedback. But the Finn/Poe shippers didn't care. They wanted their gay pairing and would trample all over a Finn/Rey pairing and any of their supporters in the process. And to be fair there apparently some among their collection who were also uncomfortable with a Rey/Finn pairing and jumped aboard the Finn/Poe idea because that pairing made them less nervous believe it or not. The problem with Finn/Poe crowd is that should know that such a couple isn't going to happen at this time in SW/. Not for the main characters at least. Yet they got swept up over the idea and were encouraged by all the non-denial denials. Soon thereafter the media followed suit and started acting as if SW was on the verge of making Finn and Poe the franchise first official gay couple. When that ends up not happening you are merely going to get an endless amount of angry feedback.

I've gotten to the point that I may dislike the Finn/Poe shippers more than the Rey'Kylo ones. And overall I have learned to hate shipping in general. One thing that my fellow progressives do online is try to make virtually every straight character into a homosexual character or one that is bi. Every other type of coupling (heterosexual) bores them. This is especially true if both protagonists in question are a white straight male and a white straight female. So many people on twitter, even white folks themselves, are quick to dismiss any interracial, straight white couple. Its comes across as prejudicial and as an overreaction on people's part. I understand the need out there for many to see actual gay characters on the big screen, but that shouldn't be an excuse to piss all over romantic pairings you don't agree with.

 

Shipping is something I can't get my head around at all. Speculating about potential romances, sure. Believing that writing a ground breaking/progressive relationship would be good? Great. Emotionally investing in them happening to the point where someone seems more a Shipper than a fan of the thing in which those characters exist? Just don't get it.

 

I'm afraid people have been wishing death on KK for the most bizarre reasons for a while now - starting with Jyn not being Rey's mother. That seems to have been the turning point from "KK is wonderful" to "KK doesn't know what she's doing and might actually be the devil incarnate", and it feels like people have been coming up with new reasons to hate her since.

 

I am quite new in the terms of "shipping". I really didn't know what the term mean. You'll find many interpretation of the term as being equal to bolded.
Shipping doesn't mean you're rabid and aggressive, pushing you're own agenda no matter what. As well, by reading a lot of stuff about shipping I came to conclusion shipping doesn't exclude being a fan, or vice versa. You can be both without any problem.
There're lots of "fans" out of there who are far more rabid than most of the shippers.
I don't know, maybe the human nature tends to spot only the extremes and then tend to generalize it.

 

Agreed, entitled shippers are just another flavor of entitled fan. I don't find throwing a fit over a pairing any worse than having a meltdown over, say, Luke's role in the film. Shipping (and m/m shipping in particular) has always been a part of fandom, social media has just made it more visible/mainstream.

 

I don't expect Finn to be Force sensitive. I am hopeful that his character will be better developed in TLJ than it was in TFA. I felt there were some gaps there, though overall I enjoyed the character and the actor very much. Since he openly stated that he went back to Starkiller to find Rey, not to aid the Resistance per se, I would expect to see that he has a decision to make in TLJ about exactly where he wants to go from here and what he wants to do with his life. I wouldn't expect him to just wake up and jump right into being a member of the Resistance without any explanation or exposition. I hope that isn't just glossed over.

 

Aye yeah, valid points, to be fair.