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Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by A Chorus of Disapproval , Dec 15, 2015.

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  1. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    Oh yeah, because we can't get enough of Tatooine. It would be as boring as a Crait drill bit.
     
  2. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    So I guess RIP Reylo. TBH, I think this was never going to happen after the interrogation scene in TFA.
     
  3. Knessa84

    Knessa84 Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But wouldn't that entail aforesaid tension and build up that is part of any romance? Especially if it's between 2 main characters. That's still pretty central to the story.

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  4. Sgt. Carver

    Sgt. Carver Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't believe it's possible to have two central characters have a romantic plot and it not be central to the story unless they're already together. It would have to develop in screen and that requires a heavy focus on it.
     
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  5. cerealbox

    cerealbox Force Ghost star 6

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    Didn't Rian say that To Catch A Thief was one of his influences because of the romantic scale and grandeur??
     
  6. Mostly Handless

    Mostly Handless Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I could see a relationship between Finn and Rose being portrayed similarly to the relationship between Finn and Rey in TFA. Two people are thrust into an adventure together, growing close as a result, but the exact dynamics of their relationship are however left ambiguous (there was a brief period of Finn/Rey shipping in the aftermath of TFA, until the actors shot it down).
    Either that or TLJ is purely platonic across the board, which, honestly I would be fine with.
     
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  7. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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    cerealbox Yes, he did. And then KMT marched in to the tune of Across the Stars. And John said that this amazing adventure "gives birth to new things". So everyone should calm down. Rian really gave a weird non-answer that VF writer predictably turned into a clickbait. [face_coffee]
     
  8. Jacques who

    Jacques who Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yes, but not romantic as in kissing romantic - for lack of a better term. Romantic as in Romanticism: sweeping, inspirational stories that emphasize primacy and exceptionalism.
     
  9. dogprivilege

    dogprivilege Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Luke needs to be there for IX. This trilogy has done a really good job making the OT characters a crucial component of the plot without making overshadowing the new characters. Frankly, the ST in general is really a continuation of the story of ROTJ imo. A result of that, though, is that Luke and Leia have a huge stake and important role especially with regards to Kylo and the Jedi plot. We already don't have Leia which I definitely think will be a hindrance when it comes to not only tying up Kylo's story, but also Leia herself since we won't get to see her resolve/take on her son.

    If Luke were to die in VIII, I think his story, and thus the overall OT/ST story, will largely feel incomplete. He has his own distinct role/motivations outside of Rey that imo need to see fruition.
     
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  10. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    Especially if Leia dies in this film as well (or in-between TLJ and IX).
     
  11. SaintKenobi1322

    SaintKenobi1322 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He'll be in IX, even if it is only as a ghost. With Han killed off and Carrie Fisher passed on, I think they have to now be very careful with how they handle Luke, or this trilogy will be overshadowed and known as the 'death trilogy'.
     
  12. JediAce1

    JediAce1 Force Ghost star 5

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    Correction: it was never going to happen after he killed her mentor and placed her friend in a coma.

    The fact that folks thought Rey would show any sexual attraction to him after he committed those acts boggles my mind.
     
  13. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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    IMO, far more upsetting than non-news RomanceGate is Rian's quote about Snoke. Another 2 years of Snoke theorizing, ugh. :oops:
     
  14. Sgt. Carver

    Sgt. Carver Jedi Master star 4

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    We don't know the context he meant it in yet. Could have nothing to do with romance between two people.
     
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  15. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    i'm sorry but the snoke=plagueis theories not being disproved until ep. 9 makes my inner gremlins gleeful. i rather wouldn't mind.
     
  16. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    I'm actually relieved to hear that romance isn't central to the plot. I like a good romance, but I didn't like the idea of Finn have a huge romance with notRey after they bonded so much in TFA, and clearly I didn't like other romance ideas people had. If they do a R1-type Jyn/Cassian bit of sexual tension with Finn & Rose, that's more than enough. SW really truly doesn't need romance, even though I adore ESB and Han/Leia.

    I'm much more disappointed by the confirmation that Finn won't use a lightsaber again. I'm super annoyed with that fake out from TFA, and now with the almost total lack of even promoting Finn so far. Boyega looked amazing with the lightsaber and it is all such a waste.
     
  17. ManWithoutAStar

    ManWithoutAStar Jedi Knight star 3

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    Reylo is not dead until we get Episode 9.
     
  18. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    I reckon it was more romance in terms of the adventure and sweep, as opposed to a love story.
     
  19. JoJoPenelli

    JoJoPenelli Chosen One star 6

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    Or until/unless we learn Rey's a Skywalker.

    I suspect we'll learn about her mother in 8 and they'll leave us hanging re dad until 9 or something obnoxious like that :p
     
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  20. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    sorry, but force ghost Luke in IX won't do it for me. Force ghost in X would be ok, but not already in IX. Would leave me just with not much interest in IX, since force ghosts are of no usage to the overall story. [face_plain]
     
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  21. nonesuch

    nonesuch Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Could we perhaps avoid gloating over this? It's not a good look for anyone, and it's pretty unfair to the shippers who are still denied permission to explain their position here. All of that aside, the comment was about romance in general in The Last Jedi, not Reylo specifically across the whole trilogy.
     
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  22. NHB0M

    NHB0M Jedi Master star 4

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    Colin Trevorrow said the wanted Luke and Leia to have a greater presence in episode IX. I guess he'll be there.
     
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  23. SaintKenobi1322

    SaintKenobi1322 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh, I am not saying I like it. I am just saying he'll be in IX one way or the other.
     
  24. hana_solo

    hana_solo Jedi Master star 4

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    Ok, lets do this all over again. There's absolutely no reason to either panic (social media right now) or gloat (this forum). What Rian said is NOT a romance debunk:

    "In our story, [romance] is not a centerpiece". "Not a centerpiece". That doesn't sound like there's no romance but just that it isn't a centerpiece.

    VF writer listing ships is VF writer listing ships. In short, it's VF writer's decision to put those ships in the context of "[romance] is not a centerpiece", not Rian's.

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  25. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    Han and Leia wasn't unrequited love.
     
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