Solo [Official Info] Phil Lord and Chris Miller NOT directing Solo

The history of LFL interventions in a nutshell:

Rogue One: Add humor
Han Solo: Subtract humor

 

All things considered, it's pretty crazy how nearly every production under the new Lucasfilm has faced some major problems:

TFA - Abrams and Kasdan taking over the script because Arndt couldn't finish in time; Ford's on set injury
R1 - Extensive reshoots supervised by Gilroy; Giacchino taking over Desplat as composer
TLJ - None that I can really think of. By all accounts, the film isn't changing due to Carrie Fisher's passing
Solo - Lord and Miller getting fired and replaced by Howard
Episode IX - Will have to be rewritten to some degree due to Fisher's passing
And a Boba Fett film was on the verge of being announced until Josh Trank departed that production.

Granted, both TFA and R1 turned out to be pretty good despite these major obstacles and problems during their productions. It's just stunning to me how almost all of these films have faced significant adversity.

 

I do believe the volatility will ultimately lead to better and more memorable films. The MCU had long stretches of no drama. Which coincided with long stretches of bland film-making.

So despite the Howard from Hell being brought on for the Solo film, I've got faith in Kathleen's risky model of bringing on raw, unbridled talent and shaping their wild visions into Star Wars films.

 

If even half of half of what is said in that article is true thank God those two are gone. Lord and Miller need to stay in the genre of fun but turn your brain off for an hour and half.

 

I put dollar to donuts that ends really quickly now. You will either see try and true talents like Howard in the directors seat or they will bring people from TV over to direct these things. They have such a factory set up I am shocked they have not done it yet. Plus there is a lot more talent in TV then there is in film on every level.

 

Star Wars: Howard's End?

It's funny what is coming out now is that the real champion of these guys, Kasdan, was the one who really led to their dismissal….as well as the lead actor. Yet people continue to blame Kennedy. They don't throw the same shade at Kevin Feige for meddling and Kennedy has a superior track record than him at every level.

 

They want standalone movies that are very much like the episodes minus the wipes and opening crawl. It's pretty obvious now. They need to convey that to all the filmmakers else this is going to repeat itself again. And stop hiring these upstarts that have 'delusions' of being auteurs with Star Wars. I wanted experimentation with the standalones but the studio internally doesn't want that so they need to stop pretending like they do.

Also notice how the directors that aren't getting bounced (in one way or another) are also the writers who had to work with Lucasfilm on the script: Abrams, Johnson, and Trevorrow. Edwards and Lord and Miller were not the scriptwriters.

 

MagnarTheGreat I don't disagree, but I do think they want unique voices--just not radically divergent tone.

 

I have faith that Howard will fix this mess.


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If the reports are accurate, I completely agree with the decision to can those two, especially the "zany humor" part. This movie would have been a total disaster.


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If Lord and Miller did indeed try to emphasize the comedy elements a little too much than this film probably does need a lot more shaping up than even Rogue One did last year. Luckily they have an entire year to work things out. Rogue One they didn't really start working on redoing parts of the movie until about six months before its release.

 

I'm just deflated by all of this, and by everyone's excitment for Ron Howard.

It just feels respectable and conventional and, ugh. Not fun. A failed dream.

 

MagnarTheGreat

Lucasfilm wants whatever brings in the most money with the smallest risk. Their bosses are ultimately The Mouse and the shareholders therefore they don't want to do anything that might mess up the sausage factory. I am sure the intention of the spinoffs were to be more "edgy" but now they into them, they realized getting edgy might mess up the tried and true formula that will bring in the $$$ - which in the end The Mouse and the shareholders only care about. They rather Lucasfilm make a good movie that brings in a billion dollars then a great one that brings in $900 million.

 

You really think by the way things have been sounding that Lord and Miller would have given us anything remotely close to a great movie???? I think Lucasfilm has every intention of giving these young visionaries a chance. But if their vision starts to turn into a poor vision than they will step in like they did here. As well they should.

 

jamminjedi23

All we know is that they wanted something different then the "cheese" that Lucasfilm always produces. I cannot say what they had in mind was going to be great or not. I do know this. The odds of it being great now have dropped. I also think the odds of it being horrible have dropped too.

Lucasfilm is just going to hit three woods from now on off the tee and in the case of Ron Howard, the trustee two-iron.

 

Well Luke02 you need to realize that it is Lucasfilm and Disney who are funding these movies. It is also Lucasfilm and Disney's reputations that will be on the line if they allow some of these movies to turn out poor. In the end these film makers can just take the paycheck and go on to their next project. Lucasfilm absolutely should step in if they think a movie is going in the wrong direction or a bad direction. And I think most of us would be dissapointed if they didn't and instead allowed these directors to just make whatever they wanted to regardless of quality or tone.

 

Yes heaven forbid they wanted to make Solo a bit different as a youth and have the events of the movie change his outlook in life to being world weary and sarcastic.

jamminjedi23

So typical McDonalds processed filmmaking. Got it. Moving on......

 

But if the end product is a mix of auteur vision and classic Star Wars (like Rogue One) what's the problem? I think the model for the Anthologies should remain exactly the same. With just better communication.

 

Yeah. A lot of the Lucas purists also treat her terribly despite her being George's hand-picked successor. Feige has it a lot easier with fans because he's a man. When he makes dramatic decisions, it's decisiveness. An admirable quality. When Kathleen does the same thing, she's an ice queen. Ironic, given the Trevorrow thing with women in JW.

Everything's pretty crazy right now.

 

"Demand" from whom?

A Han Solo flick is the no-brainer, guaranteed box-office success--maybe Obi-Wan. Boba Fett and Old Republic? C'mon.

 

Not everyone's excited about Ron Howard. I'm doing everything I can to keep my eyes from bleeding.

 

It's less excitement, and more knowing that if the film is in a troubled state and as tonally incoherent and off-key as we're hearing, there are far worse choices to call in to put the pieces together into something that works. I'm not excited about the prospect of his artistic vision, but more knowing that he'll be able to salvage whatever artistic vision is there, namely Kasdan's and with some of Lord & Miller's quirks intact, but not so many that they bury what by all respects sounds to be a killer screenplay.

 

Haha, well-played, mustachioed one.

 

My first weigh-in since the announcement...

I have no concerns and fully support the decision Lucasfilm and Kathleen Kennedy made to relieve them of their duties.

It's good to give directors the freedom to do what they want at the start. It's also good to remove them if you think the movie they are making isn't good. Clearly that's what happened here...expectations are high here, and for whatever reason, Lucasfilm was not confident that Miller and Lord's style of film would meet those expectations.