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TV Discussion The Ahsoka Tano Mega Thread Power Hour

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Aug 16, 2015.

  1. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    I've always assumed that Shaak Ti was around the same age as Kenobi, or perhaps even older. Canon or not, She certainly held her own during TFU, whether that was age 60+ or not. Likewise, with TFU knocked out of canon, we don't have a definitive death for her anymore, since the multiple deaths that Lucas filmed were all tossed by him. I'd like to think that Togruta have added extra sensory perception because of their montrals and head-tails - heightening their connection to the Force, which allowed both Shaak Ti and Ahsoka to survive Order 66 and the Purge. That being said - I'd love to see an aged Ahsoka during the ST era.
     
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  2. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    If Ahsoka was in her 30s during the Rebels era, I'd assume she would look more like Shaak Ti during the ST era; if she lived through that time.

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  3. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    The aged Ahsoka on Mortis looks a lot like Shaak Ti - I wonder if they'll use that look at some point, because her montrals and head-tails were drastically altered for Rebels.
     
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  4. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Here's a good image comparison of Ahsoka's Mortis vision beside Shaak Ti.

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  5. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Remember, the Mortis vision was of an Ahsoka who reached for full potential and probably the rank of Jedi Master. In human terms, she is roughly late 30s (judging by facial features); In Rebels, Ahsoka is in her 20s (educated guess)

    The different art styles, of course, play a huge factor and make age comparison very difficult.
     
  6. theraphos

    theraphos Jedi Knight star 2

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    She was born in 36 BBY. You can calculate her age at any point going by that. So she'd be in her 30s in Rebels.
     
  7. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Is 36 BBY official date (i.e canon) or wookiepedia?
     
  8. ManWithoutAStar

    ManWithoutAStar Jedi Knight star 3

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    Actually, she is dead. Anakin killed her during the raid on the Temple.

    https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/818589862634758144
     
  9. theraphos

    theraphos Jedi Knight star 2

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    Both, and I'm not sure what distinction you're trying to make given that the wook page cites sources. http://www.starwars.com/databank/ahsoka-tano and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ultimate_Star_Wars (cited on the galactic timeline page). So she was 14 when assigned to Anakin early in the war, for one thing.

    In order for her to be in her 20s at the time of Rebels season two, which is about 3-4 BBY, she would have had to be assigned to Anakin (22 BBY) at about the age of seven.
     
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  10. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Okay, thank you.
     
  11. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah thanks, I'm aware of that "tweet" - I'm not going to start a canon debate, but a social media quote isn't enough for me to canonize a deleted scene that the creator / director removed from the film.

    Back to the initial question, as for Togruta lifespans - during the CW, we do have some visual evidence of an older male. I don't recall his name, or if he had an established age - but his skin appeared leathered and very wrinkled - nothing how Shaak Ti looked in any movie, cartoon, or video game. I think its possible, as I mentioned already that she was only Kenobi's age into TFU. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ahsoka at an even more advanced age.
     
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  12. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    As for Togrut lifespans, the old EU stated 94 standard years was the lifespan. I do remember reading the average live to about 60, but this age thesis is now disputed because a) EU was never canon and b) the new canon is yet to dig deep on lifespans of different races in the galaxy.
     
  13. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    I like to think that female Togruta's horns keep growing throughout their life's, so older they are, longer the horns. In which case both Shaak Ti and Mortis vision Ahsoka would be somewhere in their 60s perhaps? Togruta's don't need to age the same way as humans.

    As for the exact age, I don't think there's any official canon age for Shaak Ti right now, so we can only speculate.
     
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  14. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I wish they would publish some guide that just stated when all these characters were born in canon.
     
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  15. revan772

    revan772 Jedi Master star 4

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    There is a new canon source book that confirms Shaak Tii is dead. I forgot exactly which one it was called but I remember making a post a while ago, it showed multiple characters, one of which was Shaak Tii and it showed that she died by Anakin / Vader in the Jedi Temple. I asked this after she made her appearance in the Jedi Holocron in the main Star Wars comic line. I cannot find the thread, or which book, but she is dead.

    Also, I am not Pablos biggest fan either (the way he acts on Twitter I do not find very mature) but he is in charge of canon and what he says goes. (Not to start a debate, just making sure to clarify that what he stated also has a published source book stating the same thing.)
     
  16. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    So, the deleted RoTS scene is canon. Thought so.
     
  17. Darth Valkyrus

    Darth Valkyrus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Umm... the only delted RoTS scene that I'm aware of is the one where Grievous does it, on the Invisible Hand. I don't think that one's considered canon.
     
  18. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    We're were referring to the one Pablo cited.
     
  19. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Anakin killing Shaak Ti was never filmed, AFAIK. It was probably in an earlier draft, as it is alluded to in the ROTS novel.
     
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  20. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    I found the deleted scene on youtube. It was filmed, but clearly never completed. Lucas tossed both of her death scenes from ROTS for a reason - current LFL employees should respect what he removed. At one point, Lucas approved her in TFU, that's why canon alterations have little importance to me, LFL is playing a game of Jenga - moving canon blocks around, but serving little purpose, because once it becomes too convoluted it collapses on itself. Whether Shaak Ti died in the Temple during ROTS or during the events of TFU, we still don't have a clear answer as to her age - and the bigger issue of how long Ahsoka could potentially survive. Speaking of, since Ahsoka was resurrected by the Daughter of Mortis, the typical age range might be tossed out as well. Her contact with the Daughter may have given her Talzin-like powers to exceed a normal lifespan.
     
  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I hope all the daughter did was revive her
     
  22. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    That's just her death from the Grievous scene superimposed over a temple-like background. I'm pretty certain it's fanmade.

    Think of it this way- if this footage existed, it wouldn't have taken twelve years for it to randomly surface on youtube. ;)
     
  23. Dorryn

    Dorryn Jedi Master star 3

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    No it's not fan-made. You're right that it's her death by Grievous' hand superimposed on Temple background because that's what LFL did, but it's the one on the Blu-ray.

    Anyway, why's Ahsoka's age so important?
     
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  24. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Well George-originated or not, saying it was filmed is clearly inaccurate. Semantics a little, I know, but dammit I like to be right about this stuff. :p

    As for Togrutan ages, I think it's to do with how old Ahsoka would be in the ST were she to show up. An old codger like Han, or perpetually youthful-ish like Chewie.
     
  25. Dorryn

    Dorryn Jedi Master star 3

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    How about "wait and see"? As it stands we're not even sure of her fate beyond Rebel's second season.