ST The Rey Parentage Thread (with new poll; see notes on page 2447)

What if the impact you allude to is that she IS NOT a Skywalker.

 

There are a lot of ways her family can be connected even if she's not a Skywalker.
(1) Students of Luke
(2) Tied to the original Force users
(3) Dark side users that attacked Luke's academy before Ben turned evil

Those are just a few thrown out there very quickly because I have to run. I can probably come up with quite a few others. So can many people here I am sure.

Remember-Rian and Kathleen have both already said that Rey's background is important. So has Colin. You can't just erase that.

 

Not being a Skywalker is an impact?

 

Yeah, as of right now she isn't a Skywalker and Rey at this point doesn't think she is. If that remains the case then her not being one won't impact anything. Rey's parentage can't impact anything unless we find out what it is.

 

"Surprising" the audience with the revelation that Rey is unrelated isn't the same thing as having an in-movie plot lol. Rey isn't going to be shocked to learn Luke isn't her dad, based on what we know at this point. I agree with Jedijax that they could have a reveal that Rey's family included Luke's prize student, for example, and Rey was kidnapped by Snoke as a result, leaving Luke, her parents and later Ben to search for her and fail to find her, culminating in Ben slaughtering everyone including her parents. That would set Rey up to blame Luke for being a failure and hate Kylo for murdering her parents. Of course, that would be strange to set our new protagonist up to hate the Skywalkers, but at least that would make a story arc for Rey Random relevant to the overall plot and Skywalker saga.

 

You don't recall the four hours of intense celebrating chaos that ensued when JJ said Rey's parents weren't in TFA? It'll have an effect on the audience if nothing else.

 

Tweeter: According to some people, saying that Maz’s speech invalidates Rey Skywalker is also “appealing to authority." (Pablo liked this tweet)
https://twitter.com/OasisSmoothie8/status/723735860852719616

 

Still not being a Skywalker isn't an impact by itself.

 

Oh well I guess that ends the debate Pablo liked a tweet, Rey is not a Skywalker mystery solved. .

Seriously though, Pablo doesn't seem to care for the sequel trilogy much anyway. He's said he's more into the anthology movies.

 

Pablo Hidalgo, Our Lord and Savior. He must be Rey's dad.

 

hmmm, so now we are stalking PH's likes.........

liking a tweet doesn't mean much. From that tweet, I get that PH is more about the "appealing the authority" criticism over whether Maz (who had to ask Han who Rey is)' invalidates anything.

besides the whole convo is about reddit. PH has mocked that place numerous times. And the person's response is also about people from reddit.

 

*flashback about when people attacked Pablo on twitter because he tweeted against Rey Erso theories* I... I think he need to be careful...

 

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Yet he confirms Rey's abandonment happened before the massacre, that Jyn wasn't Rey's mom and that rock people thought was Mara Jade's tombstone was just a rock

 

Nobody's stalking anyone, that tweet has been out in the 'wild' of the intrawebz for quite some time....

That's part of the convo, the OP that started it has since been deleted.

Pablo: I think what Maz says to Rey about the belonging she seeks says a lot. But I guess that requires believing Maz.
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/705980117198118912

Pablo: But, as far as Luke goes, Maz says the person she’s waiting for is never coming back. But there is one who still might.
Tweeter: but still might what? come back?
Pablo: Yeah. She’s saying Person(s) X aren’t coming back. But Luke might.
Pablo: I think she sees how limiting holding onto this idea of a return is to her. Everyone sees it but her.
Tweeter: Maz never says Rey’s “family” isn’t coming back, she says “whomever.” The only reason to say that is ambiguity
Pablo: Rey’s waiting for her family. She says as much to BB-8. It’s what keeps her on Jakku.
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/705984343198420992
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/715715707288289280
Full convo (as some tweets were deleted): http://i.imgur.com/zi9punb.png

Pablo: No, I meant, “she’s this girl I found on the Falcon. Stole it on Jakku. Mopey about that world. Thinks someone’s coming back’
Tweeter: luke ?
Pablo: No, her family. She thinks Luke Skywalker is a myth.
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/716007362763558912

Tweeter: People will literally need a "I am not your father” moment from a man and girl who have no reason to think they’re related. (Pablo also liked this tweet) Oooh Twitter stalkers strike again!
https://twitter.com/FrolickingFiz/status/721351608676782080
Oooh Twitter stalkers strike again!

 

I dont understand the point. A bunch of tweets with no context proves nothing. Not to mention is it were that cut and dry, hed be in serious violation of his NDA. Pablo doesnt seem that stupid.

 

yeah those tweets are typical PH that don't close any door whatsoever. And so many of those answers are non answers and vague.

PH has never closed the door on Rey Skywalker, even less so since TFA didn't answer anything. And whether it's the answer or not, it's "future content".

when RJ and Ridley never have once done so. Why would PH's words > than those 2 and others combined? The movies are what will give the answer to that question.

 

What PH said is very obvious and he said what I think about Maz words. I don't see how it invalidates a parentage theory. But I don't follow the discussion about Maz words here so...

 

The problem is, there's still no reason not to show us their faces, or tell us their names, or make it 100% clear that she's NOT a legacy character if this is the case. That's what changes things, the fact that they've gone out of their way to not show or tell us Anything about them. Heck Rey doesn't even get a last name.

 

Yeah, they would have done away.with quite a bit of the audience thinking shes Lukes daughter by just giving her a last name.

 

Especially since Luke, Han, Leia, Anakin, Obi Wan. Padme, Poe, Qui Gon, etc ALL got last names. And even with Finn we see the reason why he doesn't have one (Stormtroopers aren't given names at all and Poe just makes one up for him on the spot).

Rey is the first main hero to have this much mystery deliberately surrounding her.

 

it's why to me anything but Related seems pointless drag.

"OMG, Rey's surname is Mystery. Rey Mystery, it changes everything!!!!!!Oh wait what does that even add to the story or character? New name, never before seen in SW. Was there a point in delaying this reveal for years and years.......Could have just been revealed in TFA."

if Rey is Random then it seems like it was just to make Rey more intriguing and mysterious for those years with no real point.

 

Well as I've said before, let's hope it's not like Annie.

 

Watch TFA again, When Rey is eating, before she ever says a word the force tells you who she is. When Daisy is cooking her bread. she goes outside and starts to eat. the music is Vader's (Anakin) then She puts on the helmet we associate with LUKE (REAH) to throw the super SW fan off. then,. she tells BB8 big secret,. once she Tells BB8 the way to Nima Outpost,. the Diversion is ON! only the Force is telling the truth. the Saber,. the flashback, her pulling the saber over another Skywalker. It's so much bigger,... She dreams of the Island Luke is standing on, I'm sure there are a ton more I am leaving out.

The voice of "the Force" is John Williams.. And a powerful ally, He is.

 

You can't really use the score as evidence. John Williams didn't know who Rey's parents were when he was scoring TFA.