ST The Rey Parentage Thread (with new poll; see notes on page 2447)

John Williams assumed she was Luke's daughter but wasn't told that he says.

 

Broad, vague, unqualified statement = reliable. It's not direct confirmation or debunk. (Well, except for Reys-Parents-Dont-Matter, but they really havent been coy about Rey's parentage being important.)

Anything short of "X is not Rey's parent = not reliable. I don't know why people believe a major parentage theory would be debunked on social media when the directors/etc refuse to do so in interviews. That makes no sense whatsoever, sorry. To riff off the immortal (RIP) Han Solo: That's not how NDAs work!

 

I'm using the Force as my evidence. Not what JW is telling you. I haven't gone that far outside the FORCE its self,. this whole time. everyone has to dig DEEP to keep their theory going. All I do is follow the Force. and you Can hear Vader, you see the Luke parallel too!

Actually, once you hear Vader there,. you will forever hear it again. it's there saying HELLO!

 

Think of Nima Outpost as Luke going to Toshi Station. You wanted to see,. that's what happens when you trade in power converters for food.

I can only edit once,. sorry.

 

You can edit multiple times, but it must be in a window of 30 minutes. So, if a second post is over thirty minutes later, that's OK (though try to minimise this).

 

Whisperings? We could probably find 100 quotes about the Skywalkers in the ST. Muffled whispers don't stack up.

 

So.. all this dinking around and playing Mr. Mysterious and waving your hands around like it'll convince anyone...

are you saying Vader or Luke is her father? Because from whatever you were saying, I can't interpret exactly which you're getting at, and i'm leaning towards you meaning the former with all this Vader talk and i'd rather you clarify.

Or are you just being cryptic and silly because you're satirizing the thread. I could see that too.

 

I don't get what's so hard about the Maz line.

There is still wriggle room should Luke end up being her father.

But if he's not, and Rey is unrelated, that line is right there in TFA telling us.

So while the line is not a stake through the heart of Rey Skywalker - thanks to specific wording that leaves an opening, people should bear it in mind that TFA puts out the possibility (even though it comes from someone who may later end up being wrong, or who is nudging Rey without telling her point blank) that Rey's family and Luke are not one and the same.

If Rey is unrelated, this will be the line that was out in the open all along.

ETA - at this stage I think she probably is related and Luke is the father, but I don't see how it's possible to ignore the face value possibility of that line. That's what it's there for. To separate out Luke from who Rey is waiting for - i.e. As Pablo says, her family.

 

I'm not being mysterious. I started on page 2009. I opened my whole argument quoting Kathleen Kennedy. I afraid people don't understand what the Narrative of Star Wars is. If you do. It's about Space Jesus, Anakin Skywalker. When you keep that narrative and include the fact that Disney made Ben Solo, Grandson of Anakin Skywalker. Rey's fate was sealed.

Ive been following the Force as close as possible. When I went outside to try to prove my points,. I stayed close to the Force. and What Disney has been telling us,. not what a cast members tweeter says.

 

She is just a random girl and she is the new choosen one
Keep my words

 

The reason why I don't believe that is because. If Kylo Ren kills Rey Random. The Skywalker name is left to the Darkside. If Random girl kills Kylo Ren,. Space Jesus, line is extinct. If they redeem Kylo Ren,. Skywalker is left in the Light.

If she is a Skywalker,. They fight each other to decide the Fate of the Galaxy.

Rey being a Skywalker does nothing to cheapen her character. When I think of someone leaving a 5-8 year old little girl on a planet alone, it makes my bones hurt inside with agony. As a man, that is too much to take on for to long. I'm comforted knowing "the Force is strong in her family" and it seems as though it was the will of the Force she survive,. becuase she did,. all by her self,. alone,.. on Jakku..

 

Maybe he have a son or daughter hidden who knows

 

And that's the issue for me....She survived because she is a Skywalker, and not as someone unrelated, who is not burdened by space jesus legacy.

 

Luke would have been dead a long time ago if it weren't for that "burden". Vader didn't save him because he was Luke Smith.

 

The force is difficult to interpret sometimes

 

Apparently LFL thinks legacy and lineage are always important themes to SW, and to Rey, though. That isn't interpretation, it's what PH directly stated, so they don't think such info is a spoiler.

In so many stories, the "special ones" (ruling class) are members of important familys, and the hero comes "out of nowhere," zero to hero.

In SW, the "special ones" (Jedi) "come from nowhere" (parents, family are unknown, don't matter), and it's the heros that are descended from a special family.

Or, one can say, Star Wars is a fairy tale, and fairy tales often have heros who are in the position they're in because of theit royal blood.

Except that for the Skywalkers, said blood is a curse more than a blessing most of the time. How will each one handle his/her legacy?

This seems pretty foundational to the Saga.

As for an actual zero to hero - seems like that's Finn's role.

 

lets go down the rabbit hole a little further,. If you kill Kylo Ren, you are ending the line of Leia Skywalker. If you kill Rey, you are ending the line of Luke Skywalker..

Anakin is in Force ghost casino. Taking bets from Yoda, Obi Wan and maybe Qui Gon is on loud speaker.. on how his family is going to turn out. watching the same movie we are. There really isnt a casino,. Im just saying.. oh and the Fate of the Galaxy is the main bet.

 

Not sure I understand your reply, except that re: whether Rey or Kylo will die...

IF one dies, I'm dead certain it will be Kylo.

But yes, once the family starts branching out...well...would trilogy 4 follow Rey's kids AND Kylo's kids? Does the Saga just focus on one particular branch? Considering Luke was the OT protag, and Rey - assuming she's Luke's daughter - is the ST protag, I'm guessing they'd go with that line if they had to choose.

But honestly, structurally and thematically, the ST looks to be the last Skywalker Saga trilogy, in how it connects to the OT and PT.

 

I'm just saying,. If one of them dies,. their parent is "essentially" dead too. I don't think their is a ninja Skywalker laying around stalking my theory. We have Rey Skywalker (Luke) and Kylo Ren (Leia). That's what is on the line if you look at it. so if one dies,. the book of Anakin Skywalker is closed. Yoda tells Luke, paraphrase, "When Im gone the last of the jedi will you be. the force is strong in your family. pass on what you have learned.. and there is another Skywalker.. the original 2, but they arent going to fight each other,. or are they? but lets say No. Kylo Ren going maniac, means someone's line is on the line. unless they redeem Kylo Ren but thats ...........................

 

They're redeeming Kylo Ren. Imo not only did they blatantly telegraph that development in TFA, but the thematic structure of the ST depends on it.

I may rant a bit about Kylo now and then, but I call it like I see it.

Kylo surviving is a different story. Starting to believe more that he might.

Kylo ever *procreating* is a *whole other* story...

 

I doubt we'll get to the point in the story where we find out if any of the new characters procreate. The last movie will end long before that. I highly doubt any of these characters will appear in the next trilogy, if there even is a next one. I think itd be better to have the next trilogy take place in either the distant past or the distant future.

 

eehhhh??
those are very personal opinions not objective facts.
And Rey's parentage has nothing to do with whether or not Kylo is redeemed.

 

Agreed.

Note how the main actors began diversifying their acting roles immediately. They don't want to be solely associated with SW for the rest of their careers.

LFL managed to get the OT3 back on board just in time. No way will they rely on the new main actors being willing to return in 20 years for another trilogy!

Sadly, John Williams is at the age where it will be a miracle if Ep 9 isnt his final SW score Brilliant man, a true cultural treasure!

Eugene3

That's why I said "imo"....

 

LIkewise if Rey is Luke's daughter, the same line will have been out there in the open all along.

 

I don't think that Rey's lineage has been decided according to the redemption or survival of another character, that's why I do not understand why there always comes the "if they're going to kill Kylo Rey has to be a Skywalker" or the" Rey does not need to be Skywalker because Kylo is one, "does anyone really believe that they have decided the lineage / development of the main character of ST based the outcome of another character?

I currently believe that Rey is related somehow to the Whills, but I doubt she is descended from one because given the rumors they are not humanoids.

By the way Daisy was asked at Orlando celebration if Rey was a chosen one and she replied that she did not believe it.