ST J.J. Abrams to direct and co-write Star Wars: Episode IX (see warning on page 34 before posting)

I will be in line for Ep. IX even if it's directed by Uwe Boll, written by Ehren Kruger and Alex Kurtzman and produced by Tommy Wiseau. I don't think that should stop me from voicing my opinions or concerns.

 

The question is whether, when Rey needs to stand on her own, will they kill Luke to get him out of the picture.

 

lol He's right, though -- they DID **** up "Force Awakening". In fact, they ****** it up so bad, it never got released.

 

I'm not out to stop anyone from voicing their concerns - I just prefer it when people can restrain themselves from some of the ridiculous hyperbole currently riddling this thread like woodworm.

 

They made TFA - the core of the film misunderstood George's work on the previous six films. They went with something to praise the OOT fanboys rather than keeping within the spirit of the world that George set up.

 

How can something that feels so right be wrong?

 

Um. What exactly DID the ending of ROTJ set up/lay the foundation for?? The Ewoks Take Manhattan?? To me the ending of ROTJ felt pretty darned final. The only unresolved issues were questions raised by the prequels, such as "how, if at all, will the Jedi come back?" "What mistakes should a new generation of Jedi/Force harnesses avoid this time?" And those seem like they are being addressed in the ST thus far


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Is it too much to hope JJ and KK will fall out on this one and he'll be fired too?

 

So J.J. Abrams Ep. 9 will likely begin with the good guys at a disadvantage, then they'll get a win, then they'll suffer a setback, then the good guys will win in the end. Then some people will go on and on about how JJ just rehashed ROTJ. No.That's just how zillion dollar mainstream blockbuster movies are written, especially if it's the first or third film in a trilogy. It's a formula that the director is going to stick to whether it's JJ Abrams or somebody else and if they don't stick to this formula they get fired or they don't get hired in the first place.

Going to see Ep. 9 and expecting some hugely original movie is like expecting a ska band to release a goth album.

 

Preach.

Seriously, guys. We traded up here. Big time.

Before anyone else types, "OH NO, JJ IS BACK! STAR WARS IS RUINED!!!!!" I'd like to ask that you all stop and think very carefully about what Episode IX would be like if Colin Trevorrow were still attached to direct the film. All of the complaints that you have about how Abrams handled TFA, valid as they might be, almost certainly pale in comparison to the ****storm that would be awaiting us had Trevorrow stayed in position.

 

I would argue that, at it's core, TFA is true to SW - it's some of it's more superficial layers that are OOT nostalgia.

 

I believe SW is not LOTR.
There was a GOOOOLDEN oportunity to write something fantastic involving the Big 3 together and witness how the galaxy is a new and unexplored place thanks to ther previous achievements... or write'em out at all. We got instead a dull middle point wich resets everything to 1977 with the convenience of having Han, Luke and Leia (apart of each other) for spare nostalgia.

 

Nightangel is our resident Eeorye. Let her have a hand-wring and a cry. She'll be fine.

 

It's fine if you don't like TFA or JJ Abrams, but with all the seething, damn near psychotic rage I've seen aimed at that film by certain people, I'd hate to see how they'd react to an actual horrible movie (I'm talking Uwe Boll/Neveldine and Taylor quality).

 

I'll bet you real money. I will most certainly NOT be in line to see another Abrams Star Wars movie after seeing how TFA worked out.

At least I have TLJ and Han Solo to look forward to.

 

Just stop. That's one point of view. It is not the dominant one at all, and frankly, it's outright insulting to many fans.

 

yea but we have The Han Solo movie to keep us going May 2018 So I am cool and a new Spin Off movie should be announced soon...

 

yep

 

I'm seriously disappointed in this. TFA was a massive disappointment for me. That comes down to a lot of elements but basically I felt like it was a rehash that at the same time didn't feel like Star Wars. That's the story and filming techniques that Abrams created/used. Rogue One brought me back around to Star Wars and since then I've been interested in what will happen in TLJ. But there's elements, based on the limited stuff we've seen, that also have me mildly concerned of similar issues in TLJ. But I've been optimistic. Now, with Abrams announced, I'm less optimistic. I get that people like TFA, and that they'll like the rest of the new films. I get that they'll be massive successes. But that's in the same way that other blockbuster franchises are, I walked out of TFA calling it "Marvel" Star Wars (nothing wrong with Marvel either, but Star Wars is a different kettle of fish to me). Now I really feel that maybe that is the route Star Wars going down, and that will end up being my level of investment in the series, watching it on TV or hiring it. But with years of prior investment it will probably be slightly higher. This is to me, I'm giving my opinion and I'm not looking for anyone to argue with it, just as I won't argue with people who are happy with this news. We're all allowed to have our own views.

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TFA was widely praised by critics and fans alike most people loved it or it wouldn't have gotten the box office that it did.

 

I know I'll be very surprised if JJ doesn't have Luke beheaded within the first 20 minutes of Episode IX. Very surprised.

 

Full Stop. [If only it were so...] They never will.

 

I think you're right that that structure is probably what happens, since it just makes sense dramatically for the 3rd film in a trilogy. But I don't think that precludes IX from being original. I still go back to the ESB/ROTJ contrast. Part of the reason ESB is so praised is because it takes these characters and does unexpected things with them but in a way that feels very organic. It places the characters in new situations and lets them take it from there, which leads to interesting and unexpected developments that in the moment just feel so right.

ROTJ does this with Luke IMO, but Han and Leia get put in another generic Rebel-Empire battle that doesn't teach us much of anything new about them or force them to develop as characters. There's no reason IX shouldn't be able to be a very compelling, and yes, original finale if (IMO) JJ builds the plot on the characters rather than the other way around. TFA in this sense is more like ROTJ, but it makes more sense since the characters are mostly being put in situations where they have to react, not unlike ANH.

 

You literally have an avatar of a character created, written and cast by JJ Abrams.

 

Nope, sorry. No individual views, please. Everyone must agree.


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The rescue of Han and the Rebellion's final battle against the Empire is some of my favorite stuff saga wide. Plenty of people love other parts of ROTJ beyond the Vader/Luke plot.

There will be no pleasing all of the people. Especially fickle diehards.