I know the Force helps Jedi and Sith with flying, but Han is clearly a better Pilot than Luke, Hera is clearly a better Pilot than Caleb and Ezra. After seeing both Vader's skills at Piloting and Han's skills with the Falcon, Who do you think is the better Pilot and Why ?
Anakin was more of a fighter pilot, while we've only seen Han fly the Millennium Falcon, so it's hard to judge one over the other.
Why would they offer Han so much money to get them out of Tatooine. Luke said they could buy a ship and he'll fly it, Obi-Wan clearly didn't go for it. The crew would've let Luke fly the Falcon if he was a better Pilot. Han's is definitely better than Obi-Wan. You see Han get everyone out of almost impossible situations and the Empire is nervous when Han moves toward the Star Destroyer. In the PT I didn't see Luke do anything great as a Pilot, only in the novel Heir to the Jedi I've seen Luke's flying skills. Luke had ships of his destroyed, Han has always kept the Falcon operational.
I agree, Han Solo is THE BEST pilot in the galaxy. I mean he made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs. (Ahem)
They needed a pilot. You see how near the storm troopers are to getting them. They have no idea who Han Solo is. Obi-Wan knew that this was brashness on Luke's part, and that they couldn't count on his skills or getting a ship. Luke also hasn't tapped into the force yet. Do you think that Han's going to let some kid fly his ship? Not really relevant to this discussion. True, but so has Luke. What are you talking about in the second part? ESB? What? Ok. I think Han's one of the best pilots, but I think Luke's as good. I also think that Anakin's as good as both, with his landing of the Invisible Hand being what it was.
It's a toss up to me, the things I've seen Anakin do in the PT are amazing. Vader in novels amazing and did great in the Battle of Yavin until Han shot his fighter. Han's skills with the Falcon got them out of impossible jams. The point of comparing Han and Hera as a Pilot to force users, is making a point that using the force doesn't make you a better Pilot. Han did let Lando use it and at times switch co pilots. As far as Luke's flying during the Battle of Yavin, he didn't do anything great. Luke had help from his team, he was in trouble during the Battle twice and without Han he wouldn't have successfully destroyed the Death Star. Luke did a really good job, but wasn't great in that Battle. I have to give Luke credit for hitting the shot though.
Han has YEARS more experience than Luke so yes he's better. On the topic of Vader vs Han. I'd say Anakin in a close race. He was piloting since he was a boy and his force abilities made him beyond special.
We don't know but it's a safe bet that the Force empowered pilot will win. As a side note, given Kylo Ren is Anakin's grandson & Han's son perhaps that combination of lineage makes him better than either of them. He was...at the time of TPM. Maybe years later a young Han could too.
Clearly the Force is a big advantage, but it can't be impossible for a non-Force user to be a better pilot. Or a better swordsman for that matter.
Han, he has to be better at something right? having Vader being "the best eva!!" at everything is, well, kind of boring. that is my reverse logic and I'm sticking to it
BEN [Anakin] was the best star-pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. versus HAN Fast ship? You’ve never heard of the Millennium Falcon? BEN Should I have? However: JABBA Han, why you’re the best smuggler in the business. But Yoda would probably say "smuggling don't make one best pilot".
Hard to say. In ONLY the Original Trilogy, we’ve only seen Han go up against Vader in ships once, during the Trench Run. I suppose Han would be good at fighting, if only strifing and getting away. Vader? Pure brute force: blast everything between him and his goal. And yes, I am aware that Han was alive during the events of the Prequels, he would’ve been fifteen by Revenge of the Sith. We never see him. Luke? He wasn’t even born until the final few scenes of Revenge of the Sith.
As far as tactics, getting out of a seemingly unwinnable situation, air battles, innovation and leadership on their ships.
Still, the standard is different based on the ship a pilot is driving. For instance tactics and methods of piloting the Falcon is different than pioting a Star Destroyer. I am just wondering whether there is fair objective criteria we could use.
I don't think there is a 100% fair way of Judging it, it's based on what we've seen who do we feel is better. It's just opinions, I really don't have an answer when it comes to who's a better between Vader and Han. I do believe in the PT, he's the best Pilot in the Rebellion. He was trusted with Leia's life and for being a smuggler no one knew was given the Rank of General based mostly on his skills as a Pilot. Han was always out numbered, going against Star Destroyer and several TIE Fighters. He used every method possible with a high amount of skill. He never had his ship destroyed, but had a superior ship despite looking like junk. Han also took on the Empire on his own, he didn't have other fighters with him. In the CT we see Vader's air generalship in the Battle of Yavin. In novels we read of his skills, but he had a whole Empire at his command, he wasn't the underdog. I look at the PT and Anakin always commanded a fleet or was with other fighters, but you can clearly see he was the best in those battles. The only thing I don't see as flying is pod racing, it's more like a Hoover Race Car Sport. It goes in the air for some time, but you don't fly it in Space or against other fighters.