ST Prequel References in TLJ

It just makes more practical sense from the viewpoint of the Jedi-Sith conflict. I mean, why would it be even a big deal if a Jedi was brought to a politician? But a Jedi brought to a Sith, okay, that's news.

 

in the mountain temple the music is the same as the wave-like music from kamino.

 

Good one.

Various parts of the Geonosis arena with Anakin, Padme and Obi-Wan on the horned monster and Anakin on Naboo.

 

as the battering cannon starts melting the door on crait ep 3 music plays that sounds like either order 66 or right after anakin burns. i think it's "immolation".

 

That piece in the OST?

 

I actually think he's referring to this track. 1:26 I dont remember if this ost even played in Ep 2 but I remember it fondly from the Episode 3 Video Game menu It provides a great air of mystery, even a bit of uneasiness.



3:26. Short, but hugely similar. The above music might have been used for temp.



another moment where hugely similar music pops up. 1:03 Vader receives his mask for the first time.

 

yeah that's it.

 

When the Bridge was destroyed with Leia on it it sort of reminded me of this scene in ROTS.

Relevant part starts at 2:00.
I'm only slightly disappointed that no blast doors closed like in episode III. Such a security feature makes sense considering the nature of space battles, and it looks like technology actually regressed in 50 years. Either way it was probably unintentional, but still a nice bit.

Also the ending scene instantly made me think of Watto and Lil Anni in episode one.

 

The best prequel reference was when Luke told Rey all the screw-ups the Jedi did during the prequel era, and how that has impacted his vision on the Jedi themselves.

It was a very adult conversation. The prequels tell how the Jedi became too arrogant.

 

Except we all know Luke is talking out his azh. He wasn't even born then, so he had no clue what was going on. All he knows is - maybe - what he might have learned from Force Ghosts, though from his surprise at seeing Yoda at the end of TLJ, it doesn't seem like they come by often and certainly they wouldn't come by just to chat about old times.

 

We can safely assume that Luke has read some books, or just someone older told him what happened.

I was not alive in 1939, but I know exactly what has happened and the motivations and errors of both sides.

 

Luke changing his mind from "The Jedi need to end" to "I will not be the last of the Jedi" might be a hint that he's changed his mind about other things too - like the "arrogance and hubris" of the PT Jedi.

 

Amilyn Holdo's purple hair reminded me of some of the things that we would see with the senators in the prequels. Initially, I found it distracting, but I liked it. Very distinctive.

 

Depends on who wrote the books. Luke doesn't know that the Jedi were not asleep or arrogant. That they looked long and hard for Sidious, and lives being sacrificed to do it. He doesn't know that not all the Jedi were on board with Qui Gon's prophecy or the idea to train Anakin. So I'd say his sources are biased.

You don't know exactly. All you know is what is written down.

 

Luke was in contact with Obi Wan and Yoda, at least until he closed himself to the Force. And Yoda was not on board with training Anakin, I am sure Luke knows that.

Regarding history, I can be pretty sure I know exactly what happened, as we have documentation on both sides, made by themselves as well as historians. Now, if you are talking about what public schools teach, that is just an overview, you need to dive deep in a proper history studies college and focus on that specifc era to be able to affirm that you know everything.

Since the history of the Jedi Order was very close to Luke, and he had a Jedi Academy, I can be sure he, as a teacher, knew very well the Jedi Order history. He even has read the first Jedi books.

 

Was that said in the movies? He looked surprised to see Yoda. And again, I doubt they came by to talk about old times.

You're never going to know everything. This is why historians are still writing papers to journals. New information comes out all the time.

Luke says he never even read the books in the Ach-To temple. I doubt Luke was much of an academic to himself or his pupils.

 

SInce this was actually mentioned in the movie, we can be very sure to say that Luke has read the books.

 

How can we say that? Seems pretty clear that he didn't.

 

If you go for another viewing, it is during his conversation with Yoda when Yoda burns the tree.

 

Yes, I remember that scene. Luke said he did NOT read the books.

 

L: Master Yoda.
Y: Young Skywalker.
L: I'm ending all of this. The tree, the text, the Jedi. I'm gonna burn it down.
Y: Ah, Skywalker. Missed you, have I.
L: So it is time for the Jedi Order to end.
Y: Time it is. For you to look past a pile of old books, hmm?
L: The sacred Jedi texts.
Y: Oh. Read them, have you? Page-turners they were not. Yes, yes, yes. Wisdom they held, but that library contained nothing that the girl Rey does not already possess. Skywalker, still looking to the horizon. Never here, now, hmm? The need in front of your nose.
L: I was weak. Unwise.
Y: Lost Ben Solo, you did. Lose Rey, we must not.
L: I can't be what she needs me to be.
Y: Heeded my words not, did you? Pass on what you have learned. Strength, mastery. But weakness, folly, failure also. Yes, failure most of all. The greatest teacher, failure is. Luke, we are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters.

Yoda says it is time for Luke to look part a pile of old books. And the only way to look past a pile of old books is if he has read the pile of old books. Which by the way, Luke took the trouble to collect.

Also, when Yoda mentions that the books were boring, the scene cuts to show Luke agreeing with his body expression.

But go ahead, let's keep derailing this thread.

 

I think you missed a line.

Yoda: Read them have you?
Luke: Well, no.

 

Yoda: Read them have you?
Luke: Well, I...

source:
www. youtube. com/watch ? v=zB-AZoAytWM
timestamp 1:36

remove the extra spaces in the link

 

I was off by one word. And you missed it completely. He means no.

 

"Well, I have" is implied when Yoda tries to get Luke's agreement that page turners they were not.