ST Canto Bight stampede sequence

I didn't really enjoy the stampede sequence, as others have mentioned it reminded me of the Rathtar scene or the Naboo planet core sequence, a bit pointless. All in all I wasn't a fan of Canto Bight sequences as a whole, because it definitley made the film drag a bit more. The addition of Oliver Twist / Victorian era kids was too cliched as well.

 

Guess you missed the part where she’s grieving earlier and just about any war movie, including Saving Private Ryan, or Dances with Wolves, or countless other classics, where soldiers share a moment of life’s beauty or laughter, to briefly remind of who and what they’re fighting for before returning to the grit and sacrifice of the war later as she does.

 

Canto Bight is my favorite section of the film and the chase is really powerful to me, particularly the moonlight shot on the beach... Just gorgeous. I wish that the bathhouse/massage parlor bit hadn't been cut from it (but that is mainly because I would have liked to see more of the characters from the Canto Bight book and many of them were in that location) but that is a tiny nitpick. I was surprised to hear so much negativity around it, personally, as I thought that it was the one truly shining moment of worldbuilding in the sequel trilogy. Just goes to show you that everyone wants different things from their SW movies...

 

I must have missed something but Priv. Ryan is not mindlessly freeing a horse and cheering like a kid after he is told 2 hours ago that his brother is dead.

How do horses remind her on the rebellion?

Btw, if you ever watch "Das Boot" you will see some of these scenes. At some point Chief Engineer Grade receives the info that his family most probably got bombed at home. You won't see him cheering from that time on, but standing around just being broken while others cheer. Thats called good characterization.(and an outstanding actor performance)

 

Yeah, like Luke seeing his aunt and uncle's burnt corpses and barely even registering an emotional response, and then never mentioning them again?

Or Anakin in the depths of despair, slaughtering a village of Tusken Raiders and confessing to Padme he went Full Dark Side, then Artoo comes with a message and they rush off, never to mention his insanely troubling actions again for the rest of the film?

I thought it was fine. My 6 year old daughter absolutely loved it.

The only real complaint I had was that the CG wasn't great in a couple of spots. Still find it strange how a film can have unreal effects, like Snoke, who looks almost photorealistic, to the Canto Bight stampede, which honestly looks like it could have come from one of the PT films from more than 10 years ago.

 

But Lukes story goes on, focused on what he has to do. He does not say "Hey Obi, wait a second I have to free that poor Womp Rat"

 

My thoughts, exactly.

 

I guess you don't remember the moment where they're talking and Ryan is telling his story and they both laugh for a long time in the middle of the war.

Another recent moment that comes to mind is the acclaimed play and Speilberg film, War Horse, where the horse stampedes free, leaping onto tanks, and gets stuck in barb wire and both the Germans and English decide to stop fighting and help the horse with some light-hearted moments in-between.

As for Rose's enjoyment on the Falthier it harkens back to all sorts of classic moments where a character is experience something remarkable in flight or with speed and enjoying the sensation. Whether it's Elliot lifting off the ground in E.T., or the kid from Never Ending Story riding Falcor, or Atreyu riding Artax, or the boy and his robot in the Iron Giant, or the Hobbits being picked up by the Ents (or later the Eagles in LOTR), heck... even the shot of the Joker enjoying the breeze in his hair out the window in Dark Knight. Or the John Connor on the motorcycle with the Terminator. Or the celebration of flying in the Flight of the Navigator.

Much of the Canto Bight subplot, including the Falthiers, the other children, and BB8's antics, are for the younger audiences and people who are young at heart.


Are we really going to say that such moments in a movie that is partially aimed at kids is a bad thing? Just because we experienced all those other moments above as kids and are past them. This is the same kind of "I don't want to share the sandbox with the kids" mentality that has some upset over BB8's hacking exploits of the walker while simultaneously forgiving the goofiest, child-driven aspects of Endor. Star Wars has always had some elements for the older folks to analyze and some younger stuff for the younger fans and young at heart to connect with. Johnson understands this thankfully.

 

Well, Kenobi and the droids are taking the time to bury the Jawas.

I take your point - but I think the idea of freeing the horses was that it worked well with their need to escape, the increased numbers would make them harder to track, and far as taking the saddle off the last one, that took exactly 2 seconds, and they both thought they had reached the end of the line there.

 

Also, it relates to Rose's character development. It shows her compassion and warmth and plays into the fun dynamic created by Finn's grouchiness in comparison to it, helping to establish some of the things that have Finn caring for her by the end of the film. And for Finn it's non-war related life experience for a guy who didn't have a traditional childhood.

 

That is true. How many magical moments like that has Finn experienced. I don't think he was feeling any magic like Rose was. He seemed anxious and didn't understand why Rose was enjoying it. But still.

I loved the stampede. I think others have probably described it better than I could so I am not sure I will say more.

 

Hereby it shall be established that, by Darth Smurf's order, everytime when a character loses a relative in a movie, besides the initial crying and mourning, they also must not do anything else and are strictly forbidden to have any fun and/or happy moment, for the rest of the movie.

 

Not the entire movie, but please at least the next 2-4 hours in the timeline. That is my critics. In case you have not read my post in the thread about "what would you change" I say that the timeline in TLJ is too compressed, which pushes the story under unnecessary pressure. If they would have expanded the chase to about 2-3 days (some will now say OMG) it would have taken out a lot of unlogic moments. (Jump to Canto bight, Calling Maz, Funny Rose right after the death of her sister, Leia awakening from a vacuum trauma after 2 hours, etc. etc.)

 

...instead of looting their vehicle

I think the whole stuff would have worked better if they skip the horse torture stuff from the first conversation. When they finally arrive at the horses and see the torture marks, it would have given the message the final emotional push to make it logic to free them all.

 

For you and me, yes. For my 6 year old daughter, probably not.

 

Imagine if the whole herd jumped off the cliff and died...

 

Long long ago when TLJ was in its Spy Photo phase, we had all those pictures of Dubrovnik.
Aliens on a boat, a crashing speeder on a lovingly decorated main Street. Gorgeous stuff at the time.

But, the boat scene was about 3 seconds, and the Falthier chase scene down the street looked quite CGI. The truth is that it all could have been done just as realistically in a studio and a computer.

It seems now like an odd extravagance to take over the center of a busy tourist town for what they got out of it.

 

The whole planet is very Attack of the Clones. But that scene especially.

 

Yeah, some CG just gets better and that looked like PT level or say slightly better Harry Potter level. Didn't ruin the moment for me but compared to how great most of the film looked it was noticeable.

Ditto the first shot of Yoda. PT level CGI.

 

Just what are kids saying about the falthier scene?

Does anybody know?


Also, timewise, does the stampede take place at a time in the movie close to where we had the rathar chase in TFA?