Amph Waiting For Superman: Gunnverse DCU/Elseworlds (New Trailer!)

Although, I read an article awhile back noting the the change of Captain Marvel's origin will be changed in the MCU because of it resembles too much like Hal Jordan/Green Lantern.

One small step for 11 year olds, one giant leap for the MCU.

 

Not a big fan of Supergirl in the comic since she affected Superman's "Last Son of Krypton" a bit. Love Helen Slater's portrayal though. She was the most beautiful and lovely superheroine on screen. Too bad she met terrible script.

The MoS prequel comic showed there is a Kara Zor El in DCEU as Kal El's ancestor, but with Zack Snyder gone we might not get any answer of what really happened to her.

 

Clark would be physically stronger, but is not combat trained like Zod. This is why Clark was able to get him in a choke hold that Zod could not break, while Zod could land five blows for everyone one blow that Clark manages to land.

Here we can agree. Clark didn't need to rescue the kids on the bus the way that he did it. There were other ways he could have gone about it that would have protected his identity and still save everyone. Jonathan wouldn't have been mad if Clark had just left it at opening the door, or the door on the roof and getting everyone out that way. Instead, he opts to push the bus up out of the lake, thereby exposing himself. Instead of focusing on what Jonathan said, focus on methods.

How? Supergirl didn't affect his being the Last Son. She was born before he was. Not to mention there's Krypto, Kandor, Argo and the Phantom Zone villains. And now, we've had two children born since then. Lor-Zod, the son of Dru-Zod and Ursa and Jonathan Samuel Kent, the son of Clark Kent and Lois Lane-Kent.

 

Also BVS was more of a Superman story, but Superman especially Clark Kent got way to few screen time.

 

Wonder Woman actually got good character development.

She started out being quite naive, thought humans' evil doing were all caused by Ares and was eager to end it. But the truth was shown and she was questioning herself, even shaking her belief. Steve played the role to reignite her hope and truly understand humanity, that's really good character growth. Break a hero's belief, let them learn the truth but keep their core value, thus move on to another level.

Glad they didn't follow Zack Snyder's setting to let Wonder Woman abandon humanity.

 

Seems to be gig-ing steadily, I thought he was legit great in the legit great Man from UNCLE. Hell, I even like his performance as Clark/Superman, it's just the plot contortions the guy has to go through. But I doubt he'll end up like George Reeves or anything.

 

UNCLE was fun.

As Superman, he did his job well enough, the plot and characterization got its problem, there were too few scenes of Clark the reporter. I think his acting is a bit better than Routh. Routh also suffered from SR being a sequel so he got to do Reeve's Superman rather than his own. Reeve is the best Superman so far, both on and off the stage.

 

I really liked Wonder Woman until the final boss fight, and then it got ridiculously stupid and inane. Still, it's a very enjoyable movie. I've actually quite liked the turnout of the DCU so far. It could be better, I suppose. There's only been one movie in the continuity that I thoroughly despise, Suicide Squad.

 

Because of the budget, TERRIBLE cast of Ares and Gal Gadot's dull acting.

But the concept was good and we saw the character learned the truth and grew up. That's the main point.

 

THIS, THIS THIS is the Jonathan Kent we know, this is why Superman is Superman instead of some ordinary person, or worse.

 

1. The Jonathan in the movie pretty much gave that message as well.

2. IATI that is the one with Will Smith in it. Are you confusing some movies?

 

You mean the one who actually considered letting a bus full of kids die to ensure his son's safety?

 

The whole reason he was hiding Clark was because he thought the boy would be such a powerful transformative force for good. That’s his literal dialogue.

 

Yeah, so he could let a bus of kids die to keep his son's secret, these kids' lives are nothing and he doesn't care about how their death will affect his son.

If Clark could be so coldblooded like this, are you sure he's going to become a force for good, not the opposite? Clark became a force for good because the Kents taught him to do good things, not become a selfish coldblooded jerk.

 

Hey that's weird, you're objectifying women.

 

Margot Kidder has left us:
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/margot-kidder-superman-actress-dead-dies-1202809752/

 

Sad sad news. Noel Neil had passed away 2 years ago as well.

Phyllis Coates is the oldest Lois Lane alive now.

 

Again, you completely miss the point. Jonathan didn't say let them drown. He said that Clark had to keep that part of himself a secret. Something that Jonathan has always made a point of telling Clark, in every iteration. That he has to be careful when using his abilities. And to say that Jonathan doesn't care is to not understand the story.

MARTHA: "He always believed you were meant for greater things, and that when the day came, your shoulders would be able to bear the weight."

Jonathan understood that Clark could do great things, but that he was not emotionally ready to deal with all of it at thirteen. That if his efforts were turned against him, he would turn against humanity because he wasn't ready. That's why Clark doesn't do anything else until Jonathan's death and he stops him from exposing himself, in order to save him. And as Clark himself admitted, he wasn't ready yet. That's why he uses different names and travels all over, so that he could help people, while keeping his secret identity. Once Jor-El gives him "the keys to the kingdom" is he able to figure out how to help people without reprisals.

I don't know if you cannot understand that, or if you simply refuse to understand.

 

Clark Kent at 13: What was I supposed to do? Just let them die?

Jonathan Kent: Maybe;

Yes, he DID say maybe Clark should have let them drown. Anyone with basic moral sense would come up with a NO.

Yeah, Clark would turn against humanity if he saves those kids, but would stay all good if he could let these kids drown, witness the funerals and suffering from those parents, not thinking about those dead kids he could have saved with ease, and grow up to be a good man, right?

There is no "not ready" at all, it was all Jonathan's stupid teaching caused him to hide himself away. Wonder Woman showed up in WWI and everything was fine. The Justice League took on Steppenwolf and everything was fine. DCEU is better without Zack Snyder's dark tone. Its current status pretty much showed it.

 

Slowpoke you've made these points before. Either say something new or STFU.

 

RIP Margot Kidder

Rewatched Justice League again yesterday. I really like the interactions between the actors. There is much charisma between them. The jokes hold up well too. Barry is funny. I like when he takes Diana's side against Bruce. Alfred has some good one liners too. And the use of the lasso of truth on Aquaman is hilarious.
And this is my favorite performance from Henry Cavill in the DCEU. The after credits scene is a nice touch. "If I win, you're off the team." Lol.

 

Justice League was a fine movie, it didn't deserve such fate.

 

Maybe is not the same as yes or no. What he is saying is that Clark needs to be careful and smart.

Yes, he would because he would understand the importance of needing to use caution and critical thinking. That's why Snyder had him save the bus full of kids, but not Jonathan.

Diana was about to kill Dr. Poison after Steve's death and after the deaths of the village that was liberated. If not for the fact that she remembered what Steve said to her before dying, she would have done a terrible thing. After the war, the world isn't aware of Diana's role in ensuring that the war ended. In MOS, the world was fine after Clark saved the world. He was then met with criticism for getting involved in Nairobi. Once Batman and Lois cleared Clark's name, the people praised him again and by the time of JL, the world was pleased to have all of them.

 

Maybe means "possibly yes", anything that's not a solid no on this occasion is way below average morality.

He would because he was taught to learn what's right and wrong, what should be done and what shouldn't, this is why Jonathan Kent is so important to his growth.

Zack Snyder completely misunderstood Jonathan's character and gave us such terrible scenes.

Who is going to be killed when Clark had saved the bus?
The world isn't aware of WW after she had a massive magic fight with Ares, but the world is aware of Clark when he saved a bus of kids?
The world was fine after he saved the world, but not going to be fine if he saves those kids?

See how pointless your argument is?

Zack Snyder totally messed up in this part of Superman and DCEU, which is why the franchise is paying the price for it. Even WB and DC themselves had recognized it now. The world doesn't need to hate Superheroes, not at all.

 

sinister v slowpoke round 843
same as rounds 1 through 842
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