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Lit Millenium Falcon book issue....

Discussion in 'Literature' started by OutsiderJediSam, May 19, 2018.

  1. OutsiderJediSam

    OutsiderJediSam Jedi Master star 4

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    on page 258 in the paperback, it says that the Falcon was destroyed at Bilbringi nine years AFTER the Battle of Yavin, just checking to make sure I haven't gone crazy......that's a misprint right????? if so, how does this happen so much in books? how is this not caught? it's just mind boggling this is supposed to be a professional job for people and this happens....I can't do this at my job without major issues
     
  2. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    *shrug*

    Stuff like that slips through the cracks all the time. Not like it's a big deal.
     
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  3. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't get why this would get you upset, like at all. Does it really affect you that much?
     
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  4. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Could it be hyperbole? I don't have the MF novel on me at the moment. I remember the Falcon got some damage, so it might be referring to say, part of the outside getting destroyed.

    I do recall Han making some drastic overhauls to he Falcon, from time to time, although now my memory's hazy, having read those books a while ago. There was one Han Solo book (Han Solo's Revenge?) where he overhauled the interior and replaced it with some sort of hydraulic system temporarily. And he painted the Falcon and added odds and ends to it temporarily, several times... At Bilbringi, my memory's super fuzzy. Luceno must be referring to some major beatup it got.
     
  5. OutsiderJediSam

    OutsiderJediSam Jedi Master star 4

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    well I'm over emphasizing it a little I know, it was just something on my mind as I read it, sorry if it bothers you so much...haha
    I will say though, what does bother me about it is the fact that
    1) when I make mistakes at my part-time seasonal job, it most definitely isn't treated as "it happens sometimes"
    2) all I have is a "part-time seasonal job" bc I can't get a job anywhere else it seems so it does bother me some to see people mess up in jobs I think I could do if given a chance
    3) I read a lot of books and it rarely happens in anything but Star Wars books, yet I see it a whole lot in SW books, and that just makes me sad that it seems so little care is shown in this series, like they think so little of us as fans to proofread with the type of care that is in others...
     
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  6. OutsiderJediSam

    OutsiderJediSam Jedi Master star 4

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    based on when it happens in the book with the back and forth of Zadak learning about the Falcon's history moving forward and at this same time, Han/Leia/Allana learning about the history going backward, and reading a little further it is def. a mistake bc you learn the incident happens at Bilbringi when Leia was about 9 years old...
     
  7. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    I've read your posts. They really don't convince me that you could do the job of an Editor.
     
  8. OutsiderJediSam

    OutsiderJediSam Jedi Master star 4

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    really? what's the point of that please? you really feel the need for a personal attack?
     
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  9. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm saying that you don't seem to have the best mastery over writing, and that being an editor is very intensive in that respect.

    I'm sorry if that was perceived as a personal attack. I understand how it could have come across like that.
     
  10. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    In before the lock.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. OutsiderJediSam

    OutsiderJediSam Jedi Master star 4

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    That's a backpedal apology, if you didn't know that was an insult when you wrote it, I can't help you man, but to your point

    1) Honestly, I might not be the best at that specific job you're right, my point was in fact a bigger aspect at so many mistakes in various jobs I see where I could do those jobs, also...everyone expects the pro to do the job correctly for which they are the pro
    2) Also, who knows, I might make a fine editor, I don't try on here, it's a forum site, I'm not trying to put the expert touch
     
  12. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    I can't control how my message is received. All I can do is try and clarify the intent behind it.

    I could be an amazing carpenter. But I have no carpentry training. I can judge whether a wooden table functions as intended, or if it looks good. But I can't recreate it. That's kind of the big folly of critics.

    Yeah. There are mistakes. No one is perfect. But there's also no way to compare that the the draft that the Editor was given so we can actually see the progress that was made.
     
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  13. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Chosen One star 5

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    The issue is that it was supposed to say "before" and not "after?" It's a pretty minor mistake. Ideally it would have been caught in editing, but stuff like that slips through the cracks all the time. For what it's worth, the publishing of the novel was pretty rushed after its pub. date was swapped with Mindor and moved ahead by two months. An author is usually sent a book's galley proofs after they submit their manuscript, but with MF, Luceno was surprised to instead be sent a final copy of the book that was missing the dedication page and that included some edits he hadn't known about (source (39 - 44 mins)).

    MF was a fun book, if not Luceno's best. They're doing something similar with a kid's book in the new EU, aren't they? Exploring the history of the ship before Lando had it?
     
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  14. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm not disagreeing with you, but nobody's perfect. I think one of the editors actually posts here so they might get offended lol
    Just because you can't do someone's job better than they do doesn't mean you have no right to take issue with it if they make a mistake. If a brain surgeon ****s up because they weren't concentrating or is drunk do you just go "oh well he completely butchered that brain but I couldn't do any better so I have no right to complain. Keep doing your thing drunk brain surgeon!".

    Not that I've noticed SW editing being any worse than any other fiction I've read, and I'm not particularly convinced that the basis of this thread was actually a continuity error and not just a slight misunderstanding on the part of OP.
     
  15. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    I think it's absolutely fine to point out when something could have been done better. We have an entire industry built around it, and the internet has made it easier than ever for people to discuss and critique things.

    But being able to spot something that was wrong, or done poorly, doesn't mean that you're capable of replacing the person who made the mistake. Doctors make mistakes all the time, and should be held accountable when they happen, but that doesn't mean I can do a better job than they can, even with their faults.
     
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  16. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Master star 4

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    I agree 100%, but OP didn't suggest that he could do the job better did he?

    edit: nope my bad. He did.
     
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  17. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    Uh. Yeah. He did.


    That pretty clearly insinuates that he thinks he could edit better than the person that edited Millenium Falcon.

    Edit: Disregard. @EmperorHorus edited his last post, making this one unnecessary.
     
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  18. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    It is a massive undertaking to connect everything together when you have things coming out in all different kinds of media. There are bound to be mistakes made no matter how good of job they are doing in connecting everything together. Just look at the jokes people make about how many different death star plan theft stories there were in the EU. Later on I think they tried to smooth that out by saying there were lots of different parts of the plans that needed to get stolen and that was what they were all doing. But I don't think that was the plan initially. I think they originally were all just separate stories completely unconnected to one another that all happened to tell their own version of how the plans got stolen.
     
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  19. Ginkasa

    Ginkasa Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Is this the 10 year old Millennium Falcon book that we're stressing out about a continuity detail over?
     
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  20. anakinfansince1983

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  21. Xander Vos

    Xander Vos Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm confused, the Falcon wasn't destroyed in 10 BBY either..
     
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  22. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Chosen One star 5

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    They find out two chapters later that that was wrong info.
     
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  23. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Not totally. And she wasn't named the Falcon yet either. She was rebuilt as The Second Chance. IIrc.
     
  24. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    The Falcon wasn't destroyed in 11 ABY either, but I sure as heck thought it was the first time I saw the cover to Jedi Search. I actually mourned after reading Chapter 1 of that book - I knew Han and Chewie were in no danger, but I thought the Falcon was a goner for a while there.
     
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  25. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    A friend at the time thought the same and was really cheesed off about it.

    I was more cynical.