Lit Cult Encounters and Supernatural Encounters (even more new Legends material!)

Heres a question did the daughter of mortis create the Diathim Angels and The son of mortis or any of the old ones pervert some of them into the Maelibus. Did we have a Star Wars Version of Paradise lost somewhere in the past and just not realize it ? I always thought it was Interesting that Anakin compared padme to the Angels but then they never did anything with it. Even in TCW when the Separatists controlled Iego they never had Anakin even acknowledge the angels even know he apparently liked them enough as a child. They didn't even have padme have a scene with one . I know its suppose to be a throw away line of kid ani flirting with padme but I thought there could be more too it.

 

The Father is a Celestial, though - this being seems to be a treacherous Old One.

 

The Bedlam spirits don't see evil to me-just naive, and lacking any sense of how powerful they are and how that affects those who don't have their powers.

Basically gods with the minds of children.

 

Hmm. The Father as the Shunned One? I can see it. Need more info though.

 

I think the celestials evolved into the old ones, and then into the architects and then into the mortis trinity. I reread the article and it clearly shows that old ones and the celestials from dennings work played the same role. They both act as forrunners races that brought technology and magical abilities to the other races that became architects like the kwa the rakatta the killiks the gree and so on and so on (sniffs and scratches nose for dramatic effect) . I get the feelings the indolent celestials this articles refers to sre the bedlam spirits that are powerful but do not use their power. If I am not mistaken the green lady bedlam is said to be Typohojems mother. I had this weird theory thaty abeloth the father and the son waged war against their own kind which explains why abeloth was a chsos machine and why ones had a dagger that could kill them. The father is not a benevolent person. He was kind messed up and his plan to test anakin was really bizzare. The force priestess were suppose to have lines were they said he does not really understand the force. The father would make a good candidate for the treacherous old one, though he coulc just be an elevated architecht who served Wutzek.
I get the feeling that the living force and the midichlorians that allow you to use it were created by the cosmic force right before the rise of the infinite rakata empire and after the fall of the old ones. I get the feeling that the old ones and the pre rakatta cultures were using the anti force. The magic of the dathomir and the sith may derive from the same source than Waru's powers. The Rhandites, the Guild of Vindicators, The Order of the Eternal Glare all seem to tap into the antiforce that comes from nightrealm which I assume is Otherspace. The Dark which Cronal keeps referring to is most likely the life essence of a bitter Typhojem.
Now for a few stray thoughts
The throne of balance is most likely the seat of the guardians of the world between worlds from the rebels tv show. I know the books hinted at allna solo sitting on that throne but i think Leia might take up the role considering how lonely Allana would be.
Typhogem either killed Wuztek or the Father of Shadows.
The Kaibuur Crystal from Mimbann was tied into the worship of Typhiojem so I would keep an out for more of these crystals Remember that crystals capble of capturing a person's essence was given by the Rozzum, that came from otherspace, to Rur and his order. OMG! Immagine if Cronal got his hand on luke and mara's lightsaber and reprogrammed the crystal to suck in luke's so he could finally take over his body.
Talking about crystals that curses anyone that touches them I don't know If you are familiar with the Dark Hawk story from marvel comic War of kings, realms of kings, and thanos imperative. Anyway Darkhawk is a character who gains his powers by bonding with a crystals that comes from a tear in space. Anyway it turns out his crystal betrays him, because its part of a larger order that garanatee the survival of a galactic empire built by an ancient race. Now immagine if the lightsabers crystals were made to serve the old ones. The jedi would be in big trouble.
The Yssilmari and the Yuzhaang Vong also tap into the anti force.
The visions of the white eyed dark figure shouting "mine" remind me of visions of orange pair of eyes in the book IT. Personally I take the visions as a warning by the force that an eldrtitch being is gunning for you.
The thought bomb and the mgnall mgnall are two weapons the rakatta used against the ones. They also used the anti mother from the Paul S Kemp duology.
The Guild of Vindicators that have ties to Typhojem tried to get rid of Vader. Interestingly Cronal, an apparent servant of the old ones, also betrayed palpatine, he worked with lumiya according to this article and he gave Carnor Jax the dark troopers. He also lowered Vaders guard about the vindicators.
I have more thoughts about what cronal was up to with zeta magnus and about the dennings shennanigans but I will share them later because this post is getting too long. I also have some thoughts on how the whills tie into this whole thing.

 

As I understand it-the anti force was directly tied to Waru and the dimension/universe from which he came.

And the Vong-were largely cut off from the force except through a frequency in which they could access it-Vongsense is sort of like ultraviolet light.

As for the celestials-we see evidence that their servant species rebelled but no evidence of their extinction-I suspect the celestials "ascended" or otherwise left the material plane.

 

The Ones ARE Celestials (confirmed on the blog) but I doubt they were the only ones.

 

Also, according to Leland, the Father of Mortis is the most powerful Force-sensitive to ever live. Presumably meaning that even at Celestial/Old One tier, he's impressive.

 

I don't think the ones were the only celestials in existence. Just those that remained.

 

A few videos about Mortis:

 

I wonder what, if any, connection there is between the Machine Gods of Zakuul and these other deities. The Machine Gods turned out to literally be machines (that your character can beat up), but at the very least, the head of the "pantheon," Izax the Great Devourer, seems pretty similar to the Soulworm, being a serpentine creature governing death and decay.

 

It's unlikely there is any connection between the celestials and the Vong pantheon-given there is an intergalactic distance between them.

 

Where and when did the Creator's of the Silentium create the Silentium? Could they have been created in the GFFA and then sent to the Vong Galaxy? Or the creators resided here first and then traveled and created them in the Vong Galaxy? So the Yuuzhan Vong are striking back?
And didn't someone head canon the Vong as from being in OtherSpace with the Charon?

 

The genetic similarities between the Vong and humans is an interesting anomaly-however it's pretty clearly established the Vong came from anothe r galaxy-in fact we can glean a general outline of their history.

 

Just happened to be reading through my various Notes and came across something I'd forgotten about but that might be of interest here, what with this being the general "ancient history of the Galaxy" thread:


... it's from Complete Locations. I assume this was meant to be a Zhell and Taung reference, but if so who would have been the third civilization? If it is not, and is a reference to an even older conflict (!), then just how far back could this have been? That whole "millions of years of overpopulation" bit is also tantalizing, and if nothing else could be used to support some other evidence-based hypotheses.

 

Huh. Interesting. 3rd civilization? First I've heard of it.

 

Yeah, I remember noting it years ago and forgot about it until just the other day. That is the entire text of the Coruscant entry. It doesn't actually give a specific timeframe, nor does it say anything about the Zhell or Taung. Thinking about it a bit more makes me realize that this almost has to be long before the Zhell/Taung/"Onrai" 200,000 Cosmic War that led to the volcanos and the expulsion of the Taung. After all, isn't Galactic City at least 200,000 years old (and probably older)? The really disturbing implication is that how could it have even been Galactic City that far back unless there was already a Galactic civilization- one that we don't really know much about? The planet was named Notron at that point, so at best it would have been Notron City. That's assuming that with "millions of years of overpopulation" that Notron already must have been an ecumenopolis. So how could "Galactic" City have been founded on a battlefield at all, unless said battlefield was one of the few remaining (circa 200,000 BBY) open areas left on the planet, or the volcanoes known to have "somehow" erupted around that time cleared up a lot of cityscape to create enough room for a battle. The other option is that this is the only solid reference we have to even earlier events from long before the Zhell/Taung/"Onrai" 200,000 BBY conflict- perhaps an even earlier Abeloth outbreak and/or yet another earlier Cosmic War!