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Lit Abeloth's original origin

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CernStormrunner, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. CernStormrunner

    CernStormrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    is there any information on what they were originally going to use as Abeloth's backstory / origin before merging her in with the Mortis Gods?
     
  2. Biel Ductavis

    Biel Ductavis Jedi Master star 4

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    My guess would be a connection to the gods of the Yuuzhan Vong. Maybe she would have been revealed to be a member of their pantheon.
     
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  3. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd never considered that, but the idea that the big reveal of Fate of the Jedi might have been "The Yuuzhan Vong deities were indeed actual gods, and were getting revenge on the Jedi for defeating the Children of Yun-Yuuzhan in the style of a Greek tragedy" is a way crazier idea than what we got, in all the right ways.
     
  4. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    What exactly about FOTJ makes you think there was a planned origin?
     
  5. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    I just figured Abeloth came about because of the author's obsession with tentacles and bringing unwanted stuff into the Star Wars universe.
     
  6. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I'd like to have seen this. Maybe throw in the Silentium and Abominor.
     
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  7. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Denning said that he always intended Abeloth to be a corrupted servant of the Celestials. I suspect drinking from the font and bathing in the pool were always part of her origin, but I wonder what "servant of the Celestials" would have meant without Mortis.
    I'd have loved this if they also revealed the Vong gods and the Sith gods were one and the same.
     
  8. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    I never liked the notion so recently introduced that the Vong gods were tied to beings within the GFFA-the new jedi order makes the origin of the vong gods pretty clear-they are distorted cultural memories or echoes of Yuuzhan'tar and the Ur-Vong's Edenic and symbiotic relationship with Zonama with the vong gods taking on aspects on their "mother".
     
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  9. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    This would have been great.
     
  10. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's pretty interesting, actually - the Mortis arc thus conveniently allowed him to put faces on precisely which Celestials she served.
     
  11. CernStormrunner

    CernStormrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    it just seemed to be building up to something, ever since the Correlian trilogy and Centerpoint. Then we get the mention of the Celestials in the Swarm War (i think).
     
  12. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I thought at the time there was some deeper meaning to Ahsoka being left out of the story of the Mortis discovery in Apocalypse (or whatever book it was), like her eventual fate was going to be wiped out from history by an Act of Mortis or something like that. Nowadays, I think Denning just didn't want to deal with referring to her when it wasn't clear what her end story would be.

    Though thinking about it now, that's not too far removed from the time travel stuff with her in Rebels. So maybe the seed of that did get planted in Filoni's head from talking about her with Denning.
     
  13. Jid123Sheeve

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    Funny enough I feel that new canon might go an Ashoka centric route with Mortis stuff if it's touched on again considering what happens in Rebels.
     
  14. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd have liked that way more than what we got I think.
     
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  15. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Well a Treaty of Anaxes was mentioned in the Legacy comics that said, the treaty was to have the Galactic Alliance and the Fel Empire defend each other in case of attacks such as by the Yuuzhan Vong. so another Vong War seems logical at some point.
     
  16. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    There wouldn't have been another Vong war in the eighty year timeframe between Crucible and Legacy.

    At least, it's extremely implausible.

    If such a thing did occur-why don't characters ever refer to the "second Vong war" or something to differentiate it from the first?

    Also the Vong were mostly disarmed and sent to Zonama. And I get the impression they did indeed change or attempt to change their society.

    And the Vong that did not go to Zonama were scattered throughout the Galaxy and weren't in any way capable of waging a second war.
     
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