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Some more news from Joe.

 

The real X-factor for all of us is what else will be included- but I know the wait will be worth it!

I hadn't actually checked the Wook page on that story or on Ku'ar in a long time. I was surprised to see that somebody drew a connection to the Exiles. I guess it's possible, and the interpretations that can be drawn from the story can depend on exact translations.

Anyway, I do hope that we'll finally get confirmation that Tulak Hord and Andeddu (before he was Darth) were indeed among the Exiles, given that they've all but been explicitly confirmed as such by the greater body of the EU that mentions them. Having "Vader's Throne" on Korriban (the one otherwise inexplicably situated among ancient Human Exiles) confirmed as having originally been Sorzus Syn's empty Throne (from Book of Sith) would also be awesome. The Red Armored Sith Lord being identified as one and the same as Hord (per Kotor, his Armor/mask was only blackened with age- it originally wasn't black) or as one of the 4 unnamed Exiles seen in Empire's End would be great, as the art and armor style is close enough, and "Red Armor" being another known Exile would leave a valuable spot open on the list of 12 Exiles to be used for another possible character. Also, the unidentified Exile/Dark Jedi from the Sith hierarchy chart from Book of Sith:
...being confirmed as the same "Dark Jedi" from the original KotOR:

...given how similar they are in appearance and that they are both known Dark Jedi from about the time of the Hundred Year Darkness. One could go further and make both the same and also make another of the armored Throne Exiles from Empire's End this same guy. Or that if Tulak Hord is not the same Exile As Red Armor, then either or both of the above images depict Tulak Hord in his known black armor!

I do wonder if we'll also get outright confirmation that Jedi and the Republic, or at least some elements of them, did indeed know of the existence of the Sith long before the Hundred Year Darkness. Somebody else had a post somewhere in this Forum (was it you?) speculating that it was some sort of ultra State Secret within the Republic. There's been a lot of hints about that throughout the EU. Dark Empire Sourcebook mentioning ages-old rumors of Dark Side kingdoms "in Wild Space", Sorzus Syn's attempts to track down the truth of these rumors, her later discoveries that they were real and that the Sith had from time to time raided Republic Space, how the few Dark Jedi survivors of Corbos were sent into the general direction of Sith Space (and that Exile was no mercy at all for the 12), that the Jedi group of Corbos veterans from Lost Tribe Spiral knew the general location of Sith Space close enough to track the Exiles ship to the very opening of the Stygian Caldera so as to be present when Dreypa's craft exited it, and the best proof from the old Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels (of all sources) that outright says that some parts of the Republic knew that the Sith were behind several uprisings as early as 15,000 BBY!

 

Andeddu and Hord have been implied to be among the OG Sith Lords? Where was this; I thought they were a bit later?

 

Yep!

There's also the lightsaber crystals in Hord's Tomb that came from Republic worlds, which Hord could not have obtained in Sith Space. When I first played Kotor 1 I knew he had to have been one Pall's contemporaries.

For Andeddu, the Publisher Summary for Legacy 27 outright says Prakith was his homeworld, and for him to have even be able to have returned to it from Sith Space there had to have still been a stable enough hyper-route. Plus the lightsaber usage, armor style, plus him being very familiar with Karness Muur- enough to have been a fellow Exile.

 

Ooh, maybe they could do something with the infamous anachronistic Kilik Sith Lord who was somehow around even before the Exiles?

 

That Dark Jedi in black is pretty interesting because he seems to be packing King Adas' own armor or a facsimile thereof (the real-life explanation, of course, being that this guy came first). I wonder if it's perhaps Ajunta Pall himself, who was called Adas' reincarnation.

 

Not Pall himself, as there's little to no visual overlap between the various depictions of Pall and whoever that guy was. Somebody who was a Jedi, though. The difficulty is pinning down an appropriate time frame, and from there a plausible candidate, if (he?) even is retconned into an existing character instead if somebody new.

Normally, any depiction of an ancient Dark Jedi wielding a cordless lightsaber would automatically have to take place after the Great Hyperspace War, after the switch was made from the earlier corded sabers. The figure also had to have lived some time before 4,000 BBY or so, and the story suggests long before. That leaves us with a narrow few Centuries to work with, and not a lot was going on. Only Freedon Nadd and the separate and still murky Third Great Schism. While there is a resemblance to Nadd, he acted on his own, never waging war or leading troops as the figure is shown doing. So whoever it was, it's somebody unknown and unnamed, likely from the time of the 3rd Schism.

...unless we consider what was, and in this case what wasn't, continuity when that illustration was first published: cordless lightsabers, and a start of the Sith Empire circa 6,900 BBY. The Tale itself has Thon asking Gatekeeper Ood to tell Nomi of "the ancient time, when the Jedi Knights fought the armies of the Dark Side". Not one of the times, just the time. For originally there was just the idea of one great ancient conflict, at the dawn of the Republic. Later continuity had the first Sith Lords losing that conflict and finding the Sith in exile, and then in 2005 that whole conflict was made into a much later conflict. Ood's story ends with that Dark Jedi (the earlier images leading up to it are other random Dark Siders from throughout Galactic history), which in the context of Thon's request means that whoever that Dark Jedi and his troops were, they lived during the conflict that later continuity made the 2nd Schism (as opposed to just The Schism).

So if the original intent is honored, that Dark Jedi could well be one if the Exiles, assuming that he was one of the few survivors of the HYD. Tulak Hord and the very similar Dark Jedi from the chart in Book of Sith are excellent candidates, as are some of the other unnamed Exiles seen in Empire's End.

 

I look forward to waking up tomorrow morning.

 

Excitement! That droid looks remarkably like an Elder Thing and Iove it.

 

I'm almost wondering if i should volunteer at one of the local comic/scifi cons to do a presentation on this stuff... ugh i cant wait for the update...

 

so I just finished reading this. (The second one, at any rate, I didn't realize the were two.) There's some interesting stuff in there (I really appreciate downgrading the Rakata to crappy overblown mooks and muddying the origins of humanity is always a plus) and some amusing stuff (the DisneyVerse cameoing as an empty and broken shadow-reality created by accident, lol) but on the whole I really hate it a lot! Or at least, I hate it as a piece of would-be canon. As a fanfic it's entertaining enough, I guess, enough that I actually read the whole thing. Really glad it was never officially published though!

 

Annotations drop tomorrow, yes?

 

Why would he need to set a timeline again?

 

I meant: Couldn't the timeline established last week still be accurate?

 

I hope is true

 

That’s the vaguest thing ever. Literally everything in canon has some Legends reference in it.

Also, there’s already a show based on Thrawn, it’s called seasons three and four of Star Wars Rebels. Bane was in TCW.


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I wonder if the endnotes will have information about the times when abeloth escaped from the maw and her connection to pius dea.
FOTJ kept mentioning that her escapes were enabled by both wars and change in the flow of time.
I wonder if the fall of TOR's sith empire is related to abeloth being released in some way. Anyway TOR is still going on so I am sure new details could always come out.

 

And maybe the endnotes will fix the dwarf galaxy detail about the yuzhang vong, the more I think about the more I realize Darth Invictus is kind of right about the vong coming from a big galaxy.