CT Leia Mega-Thread, formerly Why did Princess Leia criticize her "rescue" on the Death Star?

Well, as I wrote, for Leia it was either certain death by execution or at least having a chance to survive by fighting your way out. I would not think twice about getting out of my death cell, no matter who the rescuers are. And I stand by that.
In some situations you just can't afford to be picky, you accept whatever is necessary to survive. Would anyone ask the others' religious or political views in a rescue boat escaping a sinking ship? No, you are grateful to have made it out alive!

 

I don't get how that applies to Leia. Are you saying she was being picky?

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Well, YES, isn't that obvious? Isn't the topic "why did Leia criticize...."? I thought I had made myself clear. If I were saved from absolutely certain death by execution I would be thankful to get out alive rather than bash my rescuers for not handing me a completely thought-out plan covering the entire escape route on a silver tablet. No way, in that situation you should be happy to still be breathing at all.

 

I never in my wildest dreams, ever would have interpreted that as "bashing". I don't see that you have made a convincing case that "bashing" even occurred. I don't recall that this even a thing within the SW community.

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"Bashing" is just one word possible. Call it "belittle", "overly critical", "ungrateful", "not appreciating" having one's life saved, or whatever, pick one. Simple fact is, they got her out of that cell, they saved her life, and that is all that should matter. Have I not repeated that countless times in this thread? I'm not "making a case" as we are not in court, merely giving my personal take on the whole situation.
She did use "flyboy", "walking carpet" (pretty belittling terms if you ask me) and tries to give the guy who just saved her life orders, not exactly the most polite thing to do. And "you came in that thing?".... well, it's the Falcon that ultimately got them out alive, past the sentry fighters, to the Rebel base AND helped destroy the DS. I don't care what word is used, putting your rescuers down is not the thing to do in a situation like this.

 

I think if she had said "you are a pile of bantha turds and are a useless human" I think you might be more on point. I don't think being annoyed, exasperated and outspoken is quite the same thing. One's opinion on this is formed by life experience and who you are, it's not a foregone conclusion that this is what happened. I think this is why you are stating and re-stating your thesis over and over again. Because we all are interpreting according to who we are and where we are from.

 

Being "gotten out of the frying pan" is only a good thing when you are not dropped "into the fire" immediately afterwards.

 

indeed

 

As I've become older:
She was a political prisoner, even is she was terminated, her demise would be fuel to the fledgling rebellion to draw others to it.
Being shot down in a poor thought out escape doesn't generate the same level of martyrdom, as the empire have a legitimate reason as she's an escaping prisoner. So she was trying to use the situation to her and the rebellion's advantage.

Growing up with Star Wars:
She was a spoilt brat.

 

And AFTER the event once they did make it back to the rest of her cell, she was much more grateful - Han was given enough money to pay off his debt to Jabba, which can't have been a trifling sum. In fact, she was warming up to Han even while they were still on the Death Star, noting his bravery in charging screaming at a squad of stormtroopers. But being broken out of your cell DIRECTLY into the middle of a firefight makes being a little bit snippy and sharp completely understandable.

 

Since Indy was brought up, he tells Sallah to only grab horses and no camels, to replace the destroyed car. What does Sallah do? He grabs horses and camels and then Indy yells at him for doing the very thing he expressly told him not to do. Would you say that Han was being ungrateful and spoiled for doing that to his friend?

 

After Rogue One where we see Cassian's commando team led by Melshi rescue Liana Halik (Jyn) from the Wobani labor camp, we can see why Leia is underwhelmed by Han and Luke's Jar Jar like good intentioned but bumbling antics.

 

She was in a bad mood, and she was expecting something more impressive.

 

At that point she didn't know that they weren't originally there to rescue her. And it's a funny line.

 

Still, Leia is not the best person by nature. She's bitchy and... some kind of baba-tank. I still hate that she was rude throughout the rescue operation. Not the nicest person in the galaxy...

 

She's bitchy? Wow, how misogynistic of you. So, any woman who criticizes a man is automatically a bitch? Is Han a bastard for criticizing Luke's efforts to rescue him later on?

 

Anyone who is rescued from certain death should be grateful, period, no matter the circumstances. She got out alive, and that's what counts. How their rescuers did it is secondary, they succeeded, that's all that matters.

Not at all. Had a male prisoner been rescued and complained he would certainly be "bitchy" in my eyes as well. It has nothing to to with gender, but being grateful to the people who risked their necks to get you out alive!

 

I believe there was a Family Guy joke on this very topic lol.

 

I gotta go with Sith Lord 2015 here. Princess Leia was "bashing" her would-be rescuers. Of course, having her planet blown up, and having been tortured, I can see that she wasn't quite on a diplomatic even keel that afternoon, but yes, she verbally assaulted her rescuers.

 

Complete strangers broke her out of her cell, claimed to be with someone she knew of, and then almost got her killed. She had every right to complain. IMO, Han and Luke got off easy. Questioning the intelligence of her rescuers was entirely justified at the moment.

 

She got out alive, no? Han and Luke at least gave her a 50/50% chance of survival. Back in her cell her survival rate would have been ZERO. So she could bitch all she wanted, what counts is that she was SAVED, PLUS the Death Star destroyed. Not much of a rescue???? I don't think so. All except Ben got out alive, the Rebel base was saved, the DS destroyed, mission successful. For all the bitching, the outcome was what the Rebels hoped for. So yes, Leia MIGHT have been a little more grateful!

 

"I'm Luke Skywalker and I'm here to rescue you."

Where in there, is a claim to be with someone that she knew?

And if they claimed to be with Ben Kenobi, surely seeing him face off with Vader as they ran for the 'Falcon, would have vindicated the claim.

 

If she was then what? Should Leia have worn a big red B? Would that satisfy you? Maybe she should be whipped?

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Perhaps an R.

For Rescued