Saga Is Star Wars more liberal or conservative?

I've seen a lot of people on Twitter make the comparison after the all-white number she wore to the State of the Union address.

 

At the point most people are comparing her to (A New Hope) the same could be said of Leia. Unless telling the regional governor of the Outer Rim he smells awful to his face is the mark of a pragmatic leader (something I don't see Ocasio-Cortez doing anytime soon, but who knows).

 

The amount of hatred and disdain Tarkin, Vader and the rest of the Imperial establishment has for Leia reminds me of how conservatives are framing Cortez.

 

Weren't the Rebels somehow reactionary in their in-universe zeitgeist? Their agenda was to restore the Old Order.

 

That's an old Legends assumption. While the core group is still called "the Alliance to Restore the Republic", we've seen multiple examples of people rebelling for their own reasons: Saw Gerrera just wants to destroy the Empire, I don't think he cares what comes after. The Lothal rebellion was spurned by the Alliance in the end and so focused on liberating and defending that world as an independent entity. The insurrection of Ryloth has similar goals.

They also DON'T restore the Old Order, but a reformed version of it. Elected representatives, a weakened Chancellory, a smaller membership (Ryloth never joined back up, as one example).

 

I don't care for Disney Wars.

 

Then, movies only, the only person to mention the Republic is Obi-Wan. All we know is that the Rebel Alliance wants to take down the Empire; it's easy to assume that's to restore the Republic, but we're not actually told that.

 

It's reasonable to assume the Rebels wanted to institute some safeguards in whatever version of the Republic they sought to (re)create, in order to prevent an Empire from arising again.

 

After the Liberation of Coruscant, the New Republic started with bureaucracy and ineffectiveness right at the point where the Old Republic stopped shortly before the Clone Wars. That was the reason it has lasted barely one generation instead of a thousand.

 

In the Expanded Universe? That's hardly a fair assessment of the Bantam years: there were arguments, sure, but that's what democracy is. It broke to establish the stakes of the Yuuzhan Vong War, yes, but there were a LOT more factors than just "bureaucracy" involved. And the nonsense that came after that was so disgustingly opposed to EVERY moral message Star Wars had tried to teach previously, it made me a "movies and The Clone Wars only" fan for years until the relaunch.

 

In reality, neither. It shows many different a sides of beliefs. Further more, Star Wars has heavy roots in eastern theology and world views, so it’s a little harder to break down in comparisons to western media. The problem is when we use the definitions “liberal” and “conservative” as if they are all they are when it comes to political ideologies.

Lucas has described himself as a classics liberal, just going based off my memories.

As for Cortez....Well, I cannot really think of the Democratic Party, their ideals or their leaders as something positive considering they were the ones that wanted our people enslaved in every way possible. And I’m referring to various ways of slavery throughout the centuries, not just purely physical.

I have the Republican Party, at least up until a certain time, to thank for liberation of my people.

 

My comment wasn’t intended to bait nor agitate the thread. But since I am a black American who’s people has been in this nation for 400 years because of slavery, I kinda had to throw out that tidbit to balance the thread out a little

 

God I want to directly reply to the assertion that "Democrats = Slavery", but this isn't the thread to do that.

 

I didn't think it was baiting, it's just a really really stupid argument that we've seen at least a dozen times in the US Politics thread. It's just a popular talking point among regressives, paranoid conspiracy theorists, etc.

 

Wow... just wow.
I am not from America, I'm not fully informed of your history, but there has got to be some flaw in logic in that account.

I can't see how non-conformist, anti-establishment ideals largely in the spirit of encouraging freedom and thinking independently can go hand in hand with oppression and slavery. Really?

 

Edit: Nevermind.

 

I desire to correct a statement I made, which caused some confusion.

Do note that the Democratic Party wasn’t formed until later on in American history. The way I worded it sounded very strange, my apologies.

 

I wasn't confused.