ST Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) In Episode IX

very true

 

Shoulda, coulda, woulda.

 

Should of.

Although according to the comments the source of the pic is unsettling.

 

That’s because Harrison just finished shooting Bladrunner 2049 and he knows what the rest don’t, “its a young man’s/woman’s game,” and they are all about to be replaced by younger heroes.

 

“This looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship.” (Casablanca, a classic).

 

Tell Sam to stop play’in that tune.

 

Should have. If you are going to correct someone, you might as well use an auxiliary verb rather than a preposition!

 

Make Star Wars Great Again? C’mon Mark. You know better.

Nostalgia is a powerful creative disease.

There can be no honest Star Wars that tries to capture something that existed in the late 70s and early 80s. There can no honest Star Wars that tries to do anything “again.”

Mark is really becoming bitter and unlikeable lately. It’s not a good look.

 

What is interesting is we love the classic trilogy because it was once novel, its characters of Han, Luke, Leia, and Darth Vader were new. To go forward we must allow for it to happen again, for the story and characters to be fresh, not keep trying to relive the old saga.

 

Well, I guess the ST is definitely not “honest” Star Wars at all then. It tried to do a whole lot of things “again”, from an empire versus rebellion conflict, to a destroyed Jedi order, to a new fallen skywalker and a new palpatine, to another throne room scene and Hoth snow (salt) battle to another Tatooine, etc.

As for Mark Hamill, I can’t really blame him. He had to participate in the destruction, humiliation, and degradation of his character, one that he had enjoyed being a part of for 40 years. The filmmakers didn’t handle that iconic character well at all, and they didn’t listen to Hamill when he tried to tell them that it was a mistake. They all thought that they knew better than he did, even though he had helped bring the character to life. I am pretty sure that if it had been Harrison Ford who was unhappy with his character’s portrayal, that they likely would have listened to him. And Hamill was right. Look at the rift that TLJ caused in the fandom for a good number of reasons, but I think that the portrayal of Luke skywalker and how that impacted the OT films in a very negative way, is the major one. I can understand how disappointed Mark Hamill would be about this. I know how disappointed I have been about the disrespect that was shown to the character. It must be a whole lot harder for him. Star Wars was such a huge part of his life for so long, and to go out in such a terrible way, with Luke so out of character, must be very upsetting.

 

Why is this a bad look for MH?

Why, because he says out loud what he feels? Because he thinks it was a missed opportunity not to have the holy trinity on screen one last time? Because he probably would have loved to have acted with his former SW co-stars, all together again? Because he loved playing/creating Luke and dreamt of getting the gang all back together for a 1 minute on screen reunion? Wow. Damn him for saying so much. Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford have spoken their minds for 30 plus years, pretty freely, and yet...MH should shut up please.

I get the sense from some parts of fandom that it's either you're with us 100% no matter what, or you can just shove off. Seriously. "Missed Opportunity". Wow. The horror. MH is soooo bitter.

I wish more of Hollywood were as honest and decent as Mark Hamill. And I would feel the exact same way if he said he loved TLJ every single day.

 

I sort of agree that the ST has, in some important ways, tried to do the OT “again,” with mostly superficial differences, whereas I see Rogue One as the only truly modern Star Wars film, with a new tone, ethos and aesthetic that’s more befitting the current times than the ST.

But no matter how I feel about the ST, I still think Mark is not being considerate to the filmmakers and his fellow actors. It’s a petty, selfish side of him that I don’t like to see, as I otherwise love the guy.

 

It's not new for Star Wars, at least. We just get a little public taste of it earlier than usual I suppose.

https://uproxx.com/movies/return-of-the-jedi-richard-marquand/3/

Or "You can type this ****, George, but you sure can't say it."

Even Alec Guinness complained.

Alec Guinness Detailed How Much He Hated 'Star Wars' in 1976 Letter

 

I don’t understand why you feel that way. Just wanting ONE scene where the whole gang can be together again is not being inconsiderate to the filmmakers and fellow actors. It’s what a lot of fans wanted to see also. He wasn’t asking to have the films be all about him. He would have liked ONE chance to have the OT characters together on film for one final time. I think most of us were expecting that. I don’t see this as making him selfish or petty. He was sharing his feelings about this.

I went back and read some of the reply tweets, and what *I* thought was terrible was how many people were condemning Hamill for being honest about thinking that it was a lost opportunity to have Luke, leia, Han, and lando together one last time. Some were calling him alt-right. Some were basically calling him old. Many were saying his time was past and pretty much that he should just shut up. Others said that he was being “toxic.” I thought those posters were awful , and that they were nasty to him for just saying what a lot of us have said: that we wish that we could have seen the OT heroes together for just ONE short scene. He wasn’t asking to be the main hero. He wasn’t dissing the new characters or actors. He wasn’t disrespecting them. I felt sad for him.

 

There was a flashback scene of the old cast in the TFA leaked shot list that didn't make into the final cut so there's always that or something along those lines. Rumors of flashbacks where Luke trains Leia are also out there, Hamill said the Lucas treatment for IX also featured Luke training Leia before Luke died.

 

Yahoo search engine existed back then? Lol did he mean Yahoo the chocolate milk drink?

 

Wow, a thread about Luke in 9 devolves into a bash fest and rant about how bad TLJ is. Aren't there other places for that? How about something actually related to 9?

 

Personally...I feel sorry for Mark. I agree that this isn't the place to start bashing TLJ, but something has to be said for what Mark is trying to say here. All I can go by is that tweet he posted, and I agree with it. I think not having the three, main characters of the OT (Luke, Han and Leia, of course) together for just one scene was insanity and frankly a weird decision. To be honest, with the story as it is I don't know how they could have done it except for a flashback, but that's not really the point. JJ should have known fans wanted to see this so should have incorporated at least one scene with the three characters together in TFA.

 

New, but also build sturdily on top of classic and much-beloved character archtypes from story and myth, of which George Lucas was a particularly curious student.

You know, having Leia and Han & Co. get to the island at the end to meet back up with Luke would have been powerful and a tearjerker.

You'd have to have Han's death in Act 1 of Episode 8 in this case, to kick off the action and push Kylo's descent further to dark side.

But that means there would have been more build up to Han's death, and it would have given Han and Kylo a scene together prior to his death scene to set up the relationship better. Han and Kylo could have been talking on Starkiller, when the base starts to collapse, etc., splitting them apart, Kylo goes looking for Rey and they duel etc. and it's Han & Chewie together who pick up Rey after the fight....

Still, we'd have gotten the reunion scene + Han in the opening of TLJ in some kind of action sequence that puts him face to face with his son again. Maybe the Falcon gets boarded when trying to flee or Kylo and troopers land on the Resistance base when Han is still heroically helping others escape.

 

True, Joseph Campbell. But my point is we once knew not Vader and Luke, Han and Leia; they were new characters once upon a time. How many Lukes, Vaders, and etc have we missed, because of trying to relive past glories?

 

Right. While I think ‘should’ve’ should be pronounced ‘should of’, I think that loops around and lead to ungrammatical writing.


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Weird twitter from Mark. Is he trolling us as he usually does? I mean, i guess he is under strict NDA and would feel the heat if a scene like this was spoiled. Now, it seems like the scene might not happen, but its still something he will not be allowed to say right? The thing is that most of us will have expected to see the big OT 3 ( sorry Lando) together in a flash back in TROS. And someone like JJ would have done it with style and purpose i am sure of. Not like nostalgia sugar. A scene like that would actually make lots of sense to have in TROS.

 

Quite likely!