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ST POLL: The Death Star Wreckage

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Darth Chiznuk, Apr 12, 2019.

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Which Death Star is it, and where is the wreckage located?

  1. Death Star l, on Yavin 4

    26 vote(s)
    9.5%
  2. Death Star ll, on Endor

    232 vote(s)
    85.0%
  3. Other

    15 vote(s)
    5.5%
  1. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    The left and right 'platforms' in that pic have a slanted /—\ structure to them that do somewhat look like the falcon's middle shaft. But....she only has a single row, not doubled. My guess it's the Death Star or something else.

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    Bold Prediction! The Death Star wreckage is from a new Death Star that’s introduced in TROS. That shot of the wreckage is the end of the movie after they’ve blown up yet another Death Star and saved the day.
     
  3. BalanceOfTheForce

    BalanceOfTheForce Jedi Master star 4

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    It could be Kamino because of the rumoured force flash fight teleporting thing during their fight.
     
  4. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    It's not clean enough for Kamino. Too many straight edges and angles on the structure for it to be Kaminoan design.
     
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  5. Siphonophore

    Siphonophore Chosen One star 5

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    What bugs me is how small the dish seems, if it's meant to be from either DS I or DS II.
    The crashed Star Destroyer on Jakku can't even fit within the frame in this image:
    [​IMG]
    Take a look at how small Star Destroyers are in comparison to the dish of DS I.
    [​IMG]
    Now, here's a comparison between the dishes of DS I and DS II.
    [​IMG]
    Backing up to the image of the dish of DS I being installed, it's essentially that.... a dish.... a plate. The wreckage in the trailer appears more conical, like the air control valve found above you on an airplane. I suppose one could argue that DS II's dish was just constructed differently, with a conical structure going around it.
    Of course one could also argue that the Star Destroyer looks much larger than the dish because the SD is probably closer, and the dish is probably much farther away. To me, that dish structure just doesn't look that far off the coast. The distance doesn't appear great enough if it is meant to be one of the DS dishes. I still think it's something else.
     
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  6. Iceko

    Iceko Jedi Master star 2

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    Has to be DS2. It has the most interesting history with Palpatine dying on it. It’s also the last shot in the teaser before Palpatine’s evil laugh. I’m pretty sure they’re going to enter it and that’s where we encounter Palpatine in some form.
     
  7. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    I’m extremely curious to know what Palpatine’s consciousness would want to do in terms of an endgame.
     
  8. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    That’s my guess.
     
  9. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    I like the idea of an abandoned castle/ruined Death Star showing up in the story. I get a creepy Satan trapped in the abyss mythic overtone here. Like Palpatine was imprisoned in this 'dungeon' of his own design, even if just spiritually. Works really well with Rey Scavenger, conceptually, tying her back to her first scene . Just really wish there was no SKB in TFA now.
     
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  10. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    The only pic of the Falcon from a similar angle, unfortunately it's a De Agostini studio scale model.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    It's very close but it's not quite the fit.
     
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  11. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades

    Soo...if the Death Star was on the grassy plain planet, and the grassy plain planet is also Pasaana (if that's not just a typo), which is the same as the desert, which opens the movie (I think the rumor said so, right)...then this fight might close out Act 1.

    Maybe the opening mission is to retrieve something from the DS. Or ... broadcast something from it to the rest of the galaxy, and then all hell breaks loose.
     
  12. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    It's a typo, that would be the third mistake in the VF article.

    D-O is on the grassy planet. D-O joins the crew from the droid factory on Kijimi. D-O follows BB-8 around like a puppy and D-O is not with BB-8 in any of the pics or videos on (desert) Pasaana. Therefore, not counting the Jungle Planet or the Swamp Planet the order should be;

    Pasaana then Kijimi then the grassy planet (the Endor Moon).
     
  13. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I think this all points to only one conclusion: the entire film takes place on Naboo.
     
  14. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    ...which means that the titular "Skywalker" is a Naberrie. Rey resembles Padmé, so... mystery solved!
     
  15. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    It's not a wreck. It's the construction site of DS 3 and they need Luke and Kylo's force power to lift it into orbit!
     
  16. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    It's Kashyyyk, Chewie will lead them there to liberate his family who are slave labourers.
     
  17. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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  18. Iceko

    Iceko Jedi Master star 2

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    What about the idea that Rey and Kylo are fighting someone positioned in between them in that shot. So its an edited shot? I mean, it could sort of fit..
     
  19. Hernalt

    Hernalt Force Ghost star 4

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    Is some source saying that that image IS NOT a staged piece of publicity photography?
    To my eyes it looks explicitly exactly like a staged piece of publicity photography.
    And therefore does not look like a single frame taken out of a sequence of frames constituting a shot or scene.
    I would bet that the powers who get paid to hype this Jeffrey Jacob Abrams product to the rafters of heaven want you to *think this is a single frame taken out of a sequence of frames constituting a shot or scene, and is therefore a legitimate simulacrum of what you will get in the film. And it isn't - it is publicity photography.
    Can someone QED me wrong?
    Rogue One had lying footage in its trailers. (So did SOLO.) Did Rogue One have lying publicity photography (single stills)?
     
  20. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    Well it's almost certainly not literally a frame from the film, since Annie Leibovitz takes her own photos, but it's possible that it's still a scene in the film. Until we se more footage there's no real way to know. I think it's reasonable to assume that it is until then.
     
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  21. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    The big question is...has Starbucks opened a coffee shop on the DS yet?
     
  22. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    You mean that lightsabres aren't real?
     
  23. Hernalt

    Hernalt Force Ghost star 4

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    Your complexion of possibilities leads to the conclusion that Anne Leibovitz would be caught dead referencing, citing, quoting, alluding to the work of a lesser artist.
     
  24. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    She has taken photos of scenes before in past shoots.
     
  25. Hernalt

    Hernalt Force Ghost star 4

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    Ok. I looked at as many Annie Leibovitz ST as I could locate. I don't believe she has the cachet to, on her own, secure a water tank, get expendable set platforms built up, get the set rigged with water jets, get lead actors into it, role cameras for several seconds, and THEN get digital image post processing done to make the lightsabers light up.

    So the reasoned conclusion is that is a set that precedes her. Even if she is borrowing actors and stage time on a set that already exists. None of her images I have seen are actual space time events that were captured in a frame in the final product. So, anything I have seen of her is _staged_. She always takes the raw ingredients and says something different.