ST Rey & Kylo Ren in Episode IX

That twitter thread is gold

 

The audience, meaning casual moviegoers as the overwhelming audience for each film wouldn`t care less. If Kylo remains a villain but is then defeated by the good guys and there is a goofy celebration at the end, that would mark a happy ending for the casual audience. Casual audience meaning people who can barely remember Rey and Kylo`s names or what happened in the last movie.

I do remember something Daisy Ridley said at the last event. That Reylo fans would be very happy with the marketing. I thought that was a rather odd thing to say. Obviously, she can`t spoil the movie but in that case, why not give a vague, non-committal answer. But why refer to the marketing? Are they gonna market it to kingdom come and then go "haha, as if" in the movie? Admittedly, I would find that really funny but I`m not sure they want to troll audiences, any segment of them, even more.

 

I hated all the ships to be honest. I didn't think any of the designs felt inspiring, creative, or StarWarsy.

Got to love her poll math though. 30% of the general audience hate Reylo, but they don't matter. All that matters is that Rey and Kylo kiss and the bad boy snaps out of his evil personality. But the question will be; will Rey even like Kylo once he's good? Maybe she only likes bad boys?

 

Really? I hadn't heard that Daisy quote. That's interesting. I'm anxious to see what the response will be if Reylo does not happen. We've been told for years that we shouldn't cling to our head canon and we should just let the story unfold, yet it's apparently going to be a disaster if Reylo's predictions don't come through.

 

I have no problem with Rey caring for Kylo and wanting him to be redeemed. Just not in a romantic way. Like if they were related.

 

In the photo of Rey and Rose you can tell she is clearly not pregnant. She has a belt on in her mid-section. Something visibly pregnant women do not and practically cannot wear.

 

How could she be preggers?

 

Not to mention how general audience members don`t care enough to do such polls. Ship polls and ship popularity on social media is as reflective of general audiences as fishes are reflective of deserts.

 

The favorite scene of many in TLJ was when Kylo and Rey joined up. Lucasfilm knows this, hence why they are making their bond stronger than ever in TROS. Not that is has to be romantic (it could be) but having these characters working together is what the GENERAL AUDIENCE was thrilled with.

 

Just did a poll myself.

Participants: My brothers, one of them likes SW (but not like us crazies) and the other only cares about making money and working 80 hours a week. So no he doesn't care about SW.

Poll: Should Rey and Kylo kiss in the next ep.
Results: 50% said "I'm busy, what?". and 50% said...."I thought Rey was a Skywalker. Ewwww no?!"

There you have it. Scientific evidence that general audiences hate Reylo.

 

My favorite is that this tiny, loud part of fandom that is against Reylo is ignoring what's happening in the world outside. Yeah, that part where fascists are really celebrated as heroes?

Also not an angry fanboy...and you have to love that she has a quote from Princess Diarist as her Twitter tag.

Yes, it's all "shut up" when our headcanons don't come true but if there's no Reylo, I will so enjoy leaping into every thread going shooting it back. It'll be fun.

Got a cite for that?

I do have to agree with the PR person Reylo on one thing - the TROS PR theme is "satisfied" - that is correct. I've seen that word way too much for it to be a coincidence. However, that it means Reylo is another matter entirely.

 

The bridal/monster carry sure convinced many people there was more to it than simply sibling/cousin relationship. JJ could have chosen one of Kylo's underling to do that and yet...Again, maybe then people wouldn't make such a big deal about it. Personally, I feel like there's a more pronounced "medieval" aesthetic in the ST than in other trilogies but that's just me.

Vader built a fricking castle (which I like to call his Castle of Sadness™) just so he could reach his deceased wife contrary to what most people expected.

I'm not saying it is but it could still be a possibility. Also, some people think this is the direction they're going in and they're just as valid as yours so why would you "mock" this interpretation? What do you think "interesting" is referring to? Do you think he's talking only about TFA?

I'm thinking he's talking about both, honestly. Even if he hadn't seen TLJ, the script was finished a long time ago so he did have an idea of where things were going for those two characters and he was vaguely teasing us by not telling us why did he find it "interesting". In TFA, he could have referred to both the interrogation scene and their fight on SKB. I personally don't think her thinking he's a monster would warrant the "interesting" comment because that's what everybody is expecting to feel at the end of TFA.

 

Man, I didn't realize that actors saying 'satisfying' meant 'satisfying to me and my view on the characters and story and no one else.' I mean, I don't think them calling it satisfying means 110% now that Kylo gets decapitated and knocked down a shaft while Rey is revealed as a missing Skywalker, but I mean, I guess they must have been talking directly to me during that, good to know.

 

It basically means. I'm selling a movie I made. I'm contractually obligated to do interviews and sell the movie. I hope people will find it moderately enjoyable, so that my fan base grows and I'm hired to do more movies.

 

I'm just saying not everyone is going to get what they want, obviously. Rey and Kylo are the most popular characters, and when they joined forces was the most popular moment. And so far marketing for TROS has shown us that Lucasfilm will likely be taking this even farther in TROS.

 

Not even just GA, I think alot of longtime fans fall outside of the twitter realm. Heck, I don't do twitter.
The argument could be made that pandering to a specifically younger fanbase might be wise, but I'm not sure reylo would be the best way to do that. With the caveats that yes, not all younger fans are into reylo and yes, longtime fans can be into reylo too, there are many self-proclaimed reylos who readily admit that they are only interested in SW because of reylo. Will they stick around when there's no more reylo material? Will they buy merchandise that isn't just Rey and Kylo? Will they do so in the numbers sufficient to make up for lost revenue from fans who typically spend alot on a variety of merchandise (and possibly fans who have more disposable income and/or room to house their collections)?

Obviously I don't know the answers, but it's an interesting subject imo. I know I have gone from swinging through the toy aisle 4/5 times a week to I can't even remember the last time I bought something SW that wasn't on clearance (and even that was a hot minute ago). When I've got money burning a hole in my pocket, I don't pre-order SW stuff anymore, I spend it on my other interests. All of this is directly related to how Rey was handled in TLJ. Depending on how she's handled in RoS, I'm mentally preparing myself to not give LFL any more money period. Which is on me, it's a personal choice, and I'm not going to pretend my individual money would make a dent. But I also don't think I'm alone.

 

When they joined forces to kill baddies. Yeah people liked that scene. And not because they were all internally thinking “this scene is so romantic, its symbolic of rey and kylo making out, because they’re finally together.”

They just thought, cool. Two force users kicking but and taking names.

 

Pro-reylo arguments often hinge on a description of the "general audience" that literally matches not a single person I know that is part of the general audience. What is consistent in opinions on SW, in the very rare instances when it comes up, is the question of whether Rey is a Skywalker (yes, still) and when prompted by me to the shock and disgust of everyone, adamant assertions that there is nothing romantic between Kylo Ren and Rey.

 

I think the behind-the-scenes of the OT is fascinating and I kind of marvel watching Empire, knowing during some scenes they were most certainly high as kites. But I wouldn`t use "yay, so romantic and awesome" for any of it.

Yeah, the movie didn`t have one real duel, it was slim pickings for lightsaber fights.

Besides, if in TROS, they had another duel and Rey killed him with some flippy, fancy moves, the audience would be into it just as much.

One of the actual really well-loved scenes from TPM was the Duel of Fates duel. What, the audience really got their Qui-Go/Obi Wan shipper on? Or did they want a threesome with Maul?

Here in Germany, SW is still reasonably popular but the main thing SW is liked for is still nostalgia and the OT. People will name you Vader, Luke, Han, Leia, Yoda, even Lando and the droids or Anakin and Obi Wan but Rey and Kylo have not really entered pop culture awareness, even among fans. They are kinda there as the new characters but that`s about it.

If you opened a SW theme park here, it would have to have OT characters and places all over to attract people. No Vader, no people basically. Reylo, indivually or together, just isn`t a selling point. All the kids I know of (who even loved TLJ) went right back to "Clone Wars!Anakin is my hero" afterwards. And really, kids don`t really go big for romance anyway.

 

Which is why people are excited about the idea of them coming together again in TROS to take down Palpatine.

 

There's also the notion that this movie is freaking boring and finally some action. Or maybe that was just me.

(Though I'm actually not a fan of the scene because even in my first viewing i noticed that the guards were just waiting in line to attack.)

 

See, I knew I liked you! The Princess Diarist was heartbreaking and reads like a tragedy imo. HF used her and she carried that with her for the rest of her life. I used to be a huge HF fan and I can't look at him the same way anymore. It drives me crazy when it's treated like some grand romance because "Carrison happened!!!"